.17 Cal?

[BMS52]

I've read articles as to why NAA discontinued the .17 cal.  I haven't been able to find if they will make them again if the problem(s) can be solved. 

I realize this has probably been discussed in the past but I'm still new to this forum and I haven't been able to find the threads.

Thanks

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[Uncle_Lee]

To find the threads, do a search for "HMR".
4 pages of threads come up.

[heyjoe]

i dont see them making .17 mini revolvers in the future

[boone123]

If you send in a broken 17HMR for repair, you get a 22/22mag. back. That's where 2 of my .17 Black Widows went. Gone forever....

[Uncle_Lee]

If you send in a broken 17HMR for repair, you get a 22/22mag. back. That's where 2 of my .17 Black Widows went. Gone forever....

That's not fair.
One can buy two 22/22 mag for the price of one 17 HMR.     

[boone123]

Maybe the other two are in the mail...
As I have posted before, one of them I think I could have fixed. The learning process in life is sometimes costly.
The unfired Mini Master I have might stay unfired. Small stress if I don't know if it will work right, big stress if it doesn't..

[grayelky]

The problem with the HMR is it being a bottle neck case. Many have made .17 HMR revolvers, but, to my knowledge, Taurus is the only company still clambering a revolver in that caliber. However, I have not looked in the past few months. The design of the bottled neck case contributes to it backing out of the chamber and causing it to jam against the recoil shield, thus making it difficult for the cylinder to rotate. My guess I s the chances of seeing one in the future will be almost non-existent.

[boone123]

grayelky.
One of my two Black Widows worked fine as far as cases backing  up. It just key holed. That's the one I should of re-crowned and not sent in. I didn't know it was good bye  forever.

[heyjoe]

i really dont understand what gives them the right to take your firearm, which is your property and not return it if they cant or wont fix it.  Were you consulted on accepting a .22 in return?

[theysayimnotme]

I wonder if a transfer bar that blocked the rear of the cylinder behind the  case as it was being fired could prevent the case from backing out? When you release the trigger the transfer bar would drop down & if the case was supported when it was being fired the cylinder should be easy to turn.

[boone123]

heyjoe.     
Its been a while, but I think they just notified me I was getting 2 new 22/22mags.

theysay-
I have been told by a gun smith that by spinning  a some rough sand paper in the chambers will work by giving the shell casing a better grip when the casing expands up on firing. 
As i said, one of mine fired fine, but key holed, but the other one locked up when fired, and key holed. Had I known I would have kept the one that worked and recrowned the barrel. The one that didn't lock up was fun to shoot. Just didn't make nice round holes.

[BMS52]

IMO unless the firearm poses a danger to the customer it should be returned.  Key holes or not, the limited production makes that gun collectable in the future.   Replacing it with a different model should be your decision, not theirs. 

Brian

[boone123]

BMS52
Yes and no.
A gun that doesn't work is not worth much, and at that time enough of them had not been sent in and kept, to say they were rare. To be fair if they couldn't be repaired , in the life of the gun, how many would get sent back for repair over and over as said gun changed hands?  Under the circumstances I think they did what they had to do. to keep up their good reputation with their customers. It did cost them.
  I do wish I had the one back that I think I could have fixed, but on the plus side I do have a 17HMR   MM that's going up in value, I think..
Hindsight is an education, foresight is guesswork...

[MR_22]

I had 6 different .17-caliber NAA's at one point. Mostly .17HMR, but a couple of Mach-2's. They are collector items now. A gun that doesn't work isn't worth much? Well, I dunno, it seems that are worth plenty to collectors. They are unique and people will collect them for just that purpose. I had 36 NAA's at one time, but have since sold off a lot of them.

I ended up selling them because people would pay more for them than was worth for me to keep them. I only shot one of them--a .17HMR Black Widow and it shot fine. Didn't jam or lock up or anything. I even carried it for awhile in a custom Absaroka Kid holster (my first--and how i got to know the Kid).

They are what they are and if you still want what they are, they are a valid purchase. If you want to shoot them (which is why I bought them), but maybe not so much.

But as such, don't expect NAA to produce any more of them.

[heyjoe]

IMO unless the firearm poses a danger to the customer it should be returned.  Key holes or not, the limited production makes that gun collectable in the future.   Replacing it with a different model should be your decision, not theirs. 

Brian

BMS52
Yes and no.
A gun that doesn't work is not worth much, and at that time enough of them had not been sent in and kept, to say they were rare. To be fair if they couldn't be repaired , in the life of the gun, how many would get sent back for repair over and over as said gun changed hands?  Under the circumstances I think they did what they had to do. to keep up their good reputation with their customers. It did cost them.
  I do wish I had the one back that I think I could have fixed, but on the plus side I do have a 17HMR   MM that's going up in value, I think..
Hindsight is an education, foresight is guesswork...

i agree with Brian. NAA had their reasons such as you delineated. Having guns continue to be returned and their reputation being harmed is understandable, however the bottom line is that it is your property not theirs. You paid for it, you didnt rent it. They should  offer the owner of the gun a replacement in another caliber, and if you said no, returned the original firearm to you. I really dont understand the legal basis for gun manufacturers to keep your gun if you want it back. NAA is not the only one who does this.