Colibri shooting

Started by seaotter, February-05-17 11:02

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seaotter

A local LGS had Colibris on sale for $2.95 a box, so I grabbed a couple. This morning I took my BW way back into the woods, where he kids go to drink beer, for some target practice. I put a beer can on a rock, and paced off 10 yards. Much to my surprise, i was able to keep the can "dancing" for all five rounds. Normally I cant do that, as the recoil forces me to re-acquire the target. Colibris, of course, have no recoil. I had a great morning practicing my drawing and shooting, and was once more amazed at how accurate and easy to shoot the BW is. But the Colibris aren't really all that quiet coming out of a short barrel: I would still recommend that you don't skip the hearing protection. My like the Colibris . If they are still at the shop, I think I will get a few more boxes.

Scott Free

At that price, I'd buy every box available!

Trailblazer

That's a steal of a price. I'm happy to find them at twice that. Also, just a note of caution, don't let the Colibris find their way into a .22 rifle. The bullet may stick before it leaves the muzzle. The Super Colibris have enough zipp to make it out a rifle barrel and are still quiet.

Scott Free

The brick I am working on now has been extremely unreliable. I'm getting at least one or two misfires per cylinder. The brick previous to this one was pretty good, though. Out of a four inch barrel, it sounds like a pellet gun. Out of a mini and I have to wear hearing protection.

seaotter

So far, all of mine have gone "bang", no problem.

E-Stop

Aguila Colibris have become my favorite round because I can shoot them in my garage at 7 yards... further when I open the side door.  I live in town near the police station.  Colibris make no noise at all from a 16" rifle barrel.  Just the sound of the lead hitting the Birchwood Casey targets and thick foam backstop.  The sound from my NAA's is similar to a nail gun.  Sounds like I am building something.

Colibris from my NAA 22LR, NAA Wasp with conversion cylinder, NAA 22 Short (cut off the bullet tips),  Jennings J-22, Jimenez JA-22, Beretta 21A Bobcat, my horrible Taurus PT-22, my Savage Rascal 22LR rifle... so many choices and so much fun without leaving the garage.
 

seaotter

You don't like your PT22? It always amazes me how different people view different firearms. My first PT22 was used, and the slide flew off after just moderate use. In all fairness, it was a rather old model, and the previous owner had shot a lot of hyper velocity rounds out of it. Taurus replaced it for free, and it has been trouble free through 500+ rounds. It is comfortable to shoot, and I can shoot it pretty accurately up to 25-30 yards. As long as I clean it regularly , it stays pretty reliable.I guess that with firearms, as in women, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Except when it comes to minis. I suspect that almost everyone on this board thinks those are things of beauty!

E-Stop

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Quote from: seaotter on February-23-17 07:02
You don't like your PT22? It always amazes me how different people view different firearms.

My only beef with the PT22 is the heavy DAO trigger.  If it had a DA/SA trigger like the Beretta 21A Bobcat, it would be a much better gun.  Heck, even if it were SAO like the NAA's, it would be a better gun.  But in order for me to hit my target with any kind of accuracy, I assist my trigger finger with the opposite index finger (two fingers on the trigger).  That is the only way I can overcome the heavy trigger pull while keeping my sights lined up with the target (and not pull left).  Then I am dead-on.  Not at 25 yards though.

The gun eats anything reliably from standard velocity on up.  Never any feed problems.  But I've never fired Stingers in the PT22.  People say Stingers damage the replaceable slide stop.  I keep two extras on hand but never had to replace one.

I went so far as to remove the main spring and cut off 1-1/2 coils to lighten up the trigger.  That was bad advice from another forum I read.  It didn't do much to lighten the trigger pull, and only served to cause light strikes about 25% of the time.  Not good.  So I shimmed the spring back to where it was.

I will keep the gun.  It is my garage gun and a (true) bug gun.  Great for shooting black widow spiders, fiddleback spiders and scorpions using nail gun powder loads from Lowe's. 

Back to NAA's... Colibris are GREAT for practicing with NAA revolvers.  But it is good to get back to reality now and then by popping off some Velocitors or Stingers just as a reminder of what to expect in a life threatening situation.

seaotter

Yeah, I don't think I will try shooting Stingers inside the garage anytime soon, though! I ran some Stingers thru my 22lr the other day, and didn't notice much difference from the mini mags I usually shoot. The Velocitors seemed to kick quite a bit more, which I guess isn't a surprise, as the bullet weighs a bit more. With the BW, I don't notice anything except some extra noise. It's all fun. After shooting semi-automatic pistols, which can be really picky about ammo, it's nice to have something that can shoot everything from a Colibri to a Gold Dot WMR. That is a really wide range of ammunition!

E-Stop

Quote from: seaotter on February-23-17 18:02
After shooting semi-automatic pistols, which can be really picky about ammo, it's nice to have something that can shoot everything from a Colibri to a Gold Dot WMR. That is a really wide range of ammunition!

I'm in full agreement with this.  While an NAA 22LR or an NAA 22 Magnum is with me 100% of the time, they are still my pocket backup guns.  Yet I have complete confidence in their reliability.  I can't say that about my Sigs.  Sigs are fine guns and if needed, will likely not let me down, but those few and rare fail-to-feed or ejects sort of stick in my mind.

Bigbird48

I was thinking of picking up some colibri . I have a squrril problem. Hate to shoot them but there wrecking my house. I tried a trap and that doesn't work. But after reading their still loud out of a BW . I'm not sure I cane use them. Will another half inch like on my new sheriff make much difference in the noise?

grayelky

Not very likely. I suspect at least a 4" barrel, but it is just a guess.
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

Bigbird48

I need a suppressor for my BW  ;D 

RogueTS1

They are not quiet. If quiet is what you need you will need to pick up something along the lines of this to handle your squirrel problem:  ::)

Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

RogueTS1

If not that then your only other choice would be:  8)

Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

Bigbird48

I have a cat but shes a very timid house cat now. and I think the squirrels are bigger anyway ;D

bleak_window

I love the Colibri and Super Colibri.  Very relaxing to shoot without ear protection.  I use the Supers in rifles and the regulars in handguns.  Perfect for new shooters, and they are always surprised there's no loud noise.  They usually grow tired of the tiny report and want more noise! 

Bigbird48

Wonder how loud they would be outta my ruger single 6,, 4-5/8 barrel

lign

Bigbird48, IMHO, you need the super colibri's to humanely kill squirrels from such a short barrel. I have had the standard colibri's get stuck in the barrel of a small 22 revolver (which I admit had a very old and dark bore).

The super colibri's from a rifle are very quiet and I have used them to dispatch a number of problem raccoons as well as a sick stray cat. I love them.

To me, the perfect rifle for this is a lever action that will handle them because it allows quick follow-up shots. My Marlin 39 is chambered for .22 short, long, or LR. However, you can also hand-cycle a semi-auto or bolt action if that's what you have on hand.

OV-1D

Quote from: RogueTS1 on September-05-17 09:09
They are not quiet. If quiet is what you need you will need to pick up something along the lines of this to handle your squirrel problem:  ::)





  They never hear it coming , the end that is .  ;) ;)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

JRobyn

For quick, humane dispatch of nuisance critters, please use the correct tool.  IMHO, a rifle.  Ruger 10/22 is my choice.  Inexpensive, tack-driving accurate, legendary reliability, extremely quiet and functions perfectly with any brand of sub-sonic .22LR ammo.

OV-1D

  Dang sure about that tack driving because I've been doing that with my Rugers , one in particular though , its almost laser guided it seems . Beautiful shooters they are , they seem to be the prefect weight for a rifle .
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Bigbird48

Well since you guys don't think I can humanely kill a squirrel with my ruger single six and colibri ammo. I just went and bought a ton of Cayenne pepper whish is suppose to keep them away. I'll give it a try.

OV-1D

Quote from: Bigbird48 on September-06-17 13:09
Well since you guys don't think I can humanely kill a squirrel with my ruger single six and colibri ammo. I just went and bought a ton of Cayenne pepper whish is suppose to keep them away. I'll give it a try.




   BigBird I've been live trapping them for years and lately I've relocated at least thirty of them this past year . Live traps available from ACE hardware no less . I use saltine crackers with peanut butter along with larger birdseed on top , seems to be irresistible to any and all tree rats (squirrels) .
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Bigbird48

It took me 2 weeks to get one in a trap, every time I bait the trap the dam javelina nose around the trap and trip the door closed. I kept setting the traps but every time I checked the trap was closed . Finally had to return the trap after a month. :(

OV-1D

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    Next size up . There are three small critter sizes being the biggest for raccoons (too large) . Always put the bait hanging over the backside of the trip plate , seven out of ten catches . Oh first throw loose bait out in the yard get them use to and needing their fix of peanut butter then over time introduce the traps .  I'll do it for ya but its going to cost , ha .
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Bigbird48

QV The Javalina trip the traps before the squirrels can get to it

OV-1D

  And you say you got squirrel problems heck sounds a lot bigger problems to me . Good thing you don't have a sodded yard .
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Bigbird48

All sand and gravel and weeds LOLs But hey the Javalina aren't burrowing under the house and eating holes in it.

lign

Your Ruger Single Six and SUPER colibri's WILL kill them humanely. It may be a bit louder than you want though. Just not the regular colibri's.

Too bad you can't do what I do: Let my 14-year old son dispatch them with his .22  piston air rifle. He is deadly with it and he'd clear the woods if I let him.  :o

Bigbird48


tocsn40

I had a 22 cal. Air pistol and it would take care of them for sure. I used mine to kill posims
Tocsn40

OV-1D

Quote from: tocsn40 on September-06-17 20:09
I had a 22 cal. Air pistol and it would take care of them for sure. I used mine to kill posims





     Tocsn40 I hope your talking squirrels and not javalinas because they ain't hampsters you know . 45 caliber as in Colt long is more of a javalina load . Always wondered anybody eat those dam things , they must . 
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

RogueTS1

Quote from: JRobyn on September-06-17 09:09
For quick, humane dispatch of nuisance critters, please use the correct tool.  IMHO, a rifle.  Ruger 10/22 is my choice.  Inexpensive, tack-driving accurate, legendary reliability, extremely quiet and functions perfectly with any brand of sub-sonic .22LR ammo.

Use the right tool, the humane tool; with standard velocity or even super velocity ammo.................... and they will never hear it coming.  8)

Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

Bigbird48

Yea Javalina are big like 40 to 80 lbs some bigger, nasty little sucker too, don't mess with them ,they will charge you.