Wheel Gun Wednesday

[Warthog]

Taurus is nothing I care about anymore.

[RogueTS1]

Taurus is making a big come back. I really like some of their new stuff and I love a bit of their old stuff; especially their revolvers.

[OV-1D]

  They kinda lose their resale value just because of their name . I don't own any so any other thoughts are not mine .

[MR_22]

  They kinda lose their resale value just because of their name . I don't own any so any other thoughts are not mine .

I've bought and sold a number of Taurus revolvers and this does not seem to be the case. Perhaps what you're observing is they are cheaper when sold used than other revolvers, like Ruger or S&W, but that's only because they are cheaper when new. That's my experience, anyway.

There are people who just aren't fans of Taurus, and that's OK. You have that sort of thing withl all gun types, including NAA.

[MR_22]

that's a shame... i like having at least a couple .22 wheelguns because of the ability to use less expensive practice ammo and different types of rimfire: shorts, CB shorts, longs, colibri, SV, HV, Velocitors, and Stingers

don't know much about Taurus wheelguns... i wonder if they are like others in that the trigger pull can smooth out over time?

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

I don't mind the trigger pull on all of my other Tauruses, just the .22LR. I'm not sure why they make the trigger springs heavier than other guns. I also have plenty of .22 alternates (hence my board name), so I'm not too worried about not having a Taurus .22 (I have Rugers [both autos and a revolver], a Colt revolver, some H&R revolvers [which I really like], some off-brand .22 revolvers, and a small collection of .22 autos.)

[bleak_window]

Warthog, you have that many rimfires because you never got around to buying the one which makes all the others obsolete.....

[OV-1D]

  They kinda lose their resale value just because of their name . I don't own any so any other thoughts are not mine .

I've bought and sold a number of Taurus revolvers and this does not seem to be the case. Perhaps what you're observing is they are cheaper when sold used than other revolvers, like Ruger or S&W, but that's only because they are cheaper when new. That's my experience, anyway.

There are people who just aren't fans of Taurus, and that's OK. You have that sort of thing withl all gun types, including NAA.

  BUY AMERICAN even if theres no difference except the price .Because if we don't someday there might not be any makers of American Made products . Just a thought .

[Canoeal]

The ones I was referring to were 22 mags, but the issue is still the trigger.

[smokeless joe]

Warthog, you have that many rimfires because you never got around to buying the one which makes all the others obsolete.....

Nice Smith BW

[Warthog]

Bleak Widow, whatever you say.

You have what you like, I have what I like.

[dlbind]

Is it Wheel Gun Wednesday?  Well here's a Smith and Wesson model 19.  It's my first handgun.  A little worn but still worthy.

[linux_author]

love the Smith 19! here's my turn at the 'wheel': a pair of all-stainless high-polish Charter Arms - a .38SPL Undercover and a just-released .357 Mag Pug w/3" barrel and adjustable rear sight (something that SP101 Ruger fans want but can't get AFAIK):

[Canoeal]

Nice Charters...

[bearcatter]

love the Smith 19! here's my turn at the 'wheel': a pair of all-stainless high-polish Charter Arms - a .38SPL Undercover and a just-released .357 Mag Pug w/3" barrel and adjustable rear sight (something that SP101 Ruger fans want but can't get AFAIK):

Yeppir, Ruger just has the 4 inch .327, .357, and .22 SP101s with adjustable sights. 3 inch SPs are all fixed.

[Dinadan]

Is it Wheel Gun Wednesday?  Well here's a Smith and Wesson model 19.  It's my first handgun.  A little worn but still worthy.

Very fine revolver. A little wear does not hurt anything as long as everything still works.

love the Smith 19! here's my turn at the 'wheel': a pair of all-stainless high-polish Charter Arms - a .38SPL Undercover and a just-released .357 Mag Pug w/3" barrel and adjustable rear sight (something that SP101 Ruger fans want but can't get AFAIK):

I like those, especially the three inch Pug. Regarding the sights - why would I want adjustable sights on my 3" SP101 when the fixed sights are aligned perfectly? If the fixed sights are set properly, then adjustable sights are just something to get out of kilter.

[linux_author]

I like those, especially the three inch Pug. Regarding the sights - why would I want adjustable sights on my 3" SP101 when the fixed sights are aligned perfectly? If the fixed sights are set properly, then adjustable sights are just something to get out of kilter.

well, as you more experienced folks know, sometimes changes in ammo and/or range result in a bit different point of impact

with Charters it can be kind of a charlie romeo alpha papa-shoot but there's always Kentucky windage on fixed sights

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[Dinadan]

I like those, especially the three inch Pug. Regarding the sights - why would I want adjustable sights on my 3" SP101 when the fixed sights are aligned perfectly? If the fixed sights are set properly, then adjustable sights are just something to get out of kilter.

well, as you more experienced folks know, sometimes changes in ammo and/or range result in a bit different point of impact

with Charters it can be kind of a charlie romeo alpha papa-shoot but there's always Kentucky windage on fixed sights

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

I expect that you are correct. But for me, with the kind of shooting I do, the different ammo having a different POI is kind of moot. I am just not that accurate shooting a three inch barrel without a rest. With the ammo I use, my SP101 shoots to POA very well. Seriously, does anyone really buy a new brand or batch of ammo and fiddle with the sights on a revolver to improve accuracy? I would have to have mine clamped in a vise to know if there was really a difference.


Range does make a difference. The further away the target the bigger my groups. Darn sights ...

[linux_author]

With the ammo I use, my SP101 shoots to POA very well.

mine too - quite impressed with my SP101 .357s - but that's for next Wednesday!

:-)

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[Warthog]

S&W model 34, 22S-L-LR IS

[Warthog]

love the Smith 19! here's my turn at the 'wheel': a pair of all-stainless high-polish Charter Arms - a .38SPL Undercover and a just-released .357 Mag Pug w/3" barrel and adjustable rear sight (something that SP101 Ruger fans want but can't get AFAIK):

Yeppir, Ruger just has the 4 inch .327, .357, and .22 SP101s with adjustable sights. 3 inch SPs are all fixed.

I have and posted an SP101 22 with 4 in bbl a while ago...I will see if I can find the pic and post it again.  It's a great shooter. Got a SW mod 19 too somewhere, was my uncle duty weapon long time ago,  38 spl.

[Warthog]

Ruger SP101, 22, a very sweet shooter, at least I like it.  I have the springs lightened, to make it an easier trigger, polished the trigger parts, to make it smoother, and I really love to shoot this revolver.  Eight rounds before needing to reload makes it nicer than the S&W Mod 34 above which only holds six rounds.  Bought the SP used at my LGS a while ago, was a good deal too.

[dlbind]

@linux- those are nice.  I've never handled any Charter Arms Revolvers.  I have so much left to see and do!

@Warthog - I keep telling myself I'm a Smith guy but I have more Ruger revolvers.  Before I bought my single 10 I considered a SP101.

As far as adjusting sights.  I have a New Vaquero in 45 colt that I tinkered with for awhile.  The fixed sights, polished stainless (time of day and amount of sun had a major influence on me) and my worsening eyesight resulted in me buying a blued Blackhawk so I could adjust the sights!  To each their own.  Someday I might get back to developing a load for the Vaquero.

Until next week!

[linux_author]

I've never handled any Charter Arms Revolvers.

well, IMHO, Charters are meant to be used and abused... not too many folks will shed a tear if a Charter gets dinged or scratched... they are simple devices, and are easy to clean and maintain... i don't think there's much you can do to lighten the trigger pull aside from changing out the hammer spring ... i have six Charters and none can accept hammer shims due to a good fit - perhaps the triggers can be shimmed, but most folks shy away from doing a complete tear-down...

Charter is interesting in that AFAIK it is the only manufacturer to release videos made in-house to completely maintain your revolver:

latch assembly (i built my own latch tool out of a piece of a $1.99 stainless harbor freight ruler):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSlqqSCFqbM&t=2s

cylinder assembly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EgSOYn3xJM

and maintenance cleaning (including trigger disassembly and reassmbly):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHJmLpsW5j4

parts are inexpensive - for example, you can get a bobbed DAO hammer for $25 directly from Charter for any of its revolvers:
https://charterfirearms.com/collections/frontpage/products/double-action-hammer

i have a Pathfinder in .22mag - didn't like the plastic trigger guard/frame, so i went onto the Bay of Evil and got a stainless one for less than $50 - now it's all stainless!

as an aside, the .38SPL Undercover pictured above came out the box as a very sweet shooter with a smooth trigger on a par wtih my Rugers, Smiths and Colts - must have been - pardon the pun - luck of the draw ... all my other Charters aren't as nice

oh, and one reason i like Charters, in particular the Pitbulls, is the no moon clip support for ACPs - in my case, 9mm and .380ACP - unique in the current industry to my knowledge

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[bearcatter]

I would actually prefer that my .22 SP101 had fixed sights. It's the only adjustable sight gun I own, outside of my 10/22, which I don't consider adjustable. I set the SP's sights on its first range trip and haven't touched them since. My .357 SP, Bearcats, and Guardian do just fine with fixed. I never understood people filing front sights on fixed sight guns. That's only good for one distance anyway and maybe messes up the next owner if any. I just adjust my sight picture for distance.

[Uncle Fatso]

A day early. My well traveled Schmidt und Wesson 442

[smokeless joe]

A day early. My well traveled Schmidt und Wesson 442

It's all good U F everyday is Wednesday when we're talking wheelguns.

[linux_author]

hey folks - went to the range yesterday and had a 'wheelie' good time! took my pair of SP101s, which just recently got blinged out with some Chigs Grips inserts:

[Uncle_Lee]

Really good looking "pear" there.

[linux_author]

Really good looking "pear" there.

tks, mr uncle_lee... i like the inserts (even though the Ruger ones are nice too) ,and the guy who makes 'em is good people - he comped me shipping 'cause i'm retired military (and even though i told him he didn't have to!)

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[bearcatter]

hey folks - went to the range yesterday and had a 'wheelie' good time! took my pair of SP101s, which just recently got blinged out with some Chigs Grips inserts:

How do the FO sights compare to the standard ones? I've got the .22 SP with FO, and a .357 with standard. I find the FO is easy to pick up on target, but not as precise.

[5_shooter]

My 34s.

[5_shooter]

K22 Combat Masterpiece

[linux_author]

hey folks - went to the range yesterday and had a 'wheelie' good time! took my pair of SP101s, which just recently got blinged out with some Chigs Grips inserts:

How do the FO sights compare to the standard ones? I've got the .22 SP with FO, and a .357 with standard. I find the FO is easy to pick up on target, but not as precise.

the Novak sight on the sp101 in the above pic is brass bead, but i have a sp101 .22 with FO, but yes, doesn't seem as precise for some reason ('cause i'm an old iron-sights kinda guy?)

:-)

p.s. beautimous K22 and 34s! [drool]

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[Dinadan]

Nice S&W, Uncle. Showing a bit of use just makes it okay to carry around and possibly add a scrape or ding.


Very nice pair of SP101s, Linux. Seems like a lot of folks on this forum like SP101!


5 shooter - you do have some nice S&Ws! I especially like that snub nose.

[Warthog]

5 Shooter, I had one of those before, they are really nice wheelers.  Mine was stolen and never recovered.   Which isn't my way of saying I want the serial number so I can make sure.  So please don't misunderstand me here.  I loved shooting the one I had, I had first given it to my dad while we lived in the middle of nowhere, but when he moved to FL, he gave it to me again and then it was gone.  I shot it a lot though and really enjoyed it, hope you love yours as much.