EB Serial numbers?

[45flint]

What will be the serial number of the post EB Rangers?  BT? RA?

[Bj]

Couldn't it just be numbers?

[Uncle_Lee]

What will be the serial number of the post EB Rangers?  BT? RA?

From Sandy's October Soapbox...
" EB pieces will be identified with the serial # EBIIXXX. "

[45flint]

They may use BT for regular production like with Ranger 1?   RA looks funny to me?

[Uncle_Lee]

I think it will be RIIXXX for regular production.

[grayelky]

Couldn't it just be numbers?

No. ATF requires a mixture of letters and numbers.

[RogueTS1]

Nope they don't call anyone. If I lay my CCW on the counter theres no check or call of any kind.

Seriously? How do they know your permit hasn't been revoked? So you can get a CCW, commit a felony, and still buy guns without a background check until your CCW expires?

If you do something to get your permit/DL revoked it is done in a court of law. The judge usually orders you to turn in your DL or your permit etc and you then have no permit/DL to show anybody.

[MR_22]

Couldn't it just be numbers?

No. ATF requires a mixture of letters and numbers.

Really? Is that true?

I thought the reason that letters were used was because every serial number from a particular manufacturer must be unique. So, you can't have, say a Model A with a serial number that is repeated on a Model B. So a letter is often used to differentiate between models, but I didn't think that was required.

A lot of my older firearms don't have letters in the serials. If this is a real ATF rule, was it something that came later? I know you can't have just letters--you must have at least one number, but I thought you could have all numbers without letters. I tried a quick Google on this and couldn't find anything on it either way. Interesting question.

[Ruger]

Found this in the ATF Guidbook.

ATF Requirements for Serial Numbers: (27 CFR 478.92 - Firearm manufacturers marking requirements)

a)(1) Firearms. You, as a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer of firearms, must legibly
identify each firearm manufactured or imported as follows:

(i) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously
placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the
frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be
placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed,
and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For
firearms manufactured or imported on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving,
casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth
of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch;

[MR_22]

Yeah, that doesn't say anything about using letters or numbers.

I "created" a short-barreled rifle after submitting and getting approval for a Form 1 to the ATF, but there are allowances to use the previous serial number from the original manufacturer, so i didn't have to worry about a serial number. I just added my gun trust name and my city and state of residence and I was done.

[redhawk4]

Who named the Break Top, "Ranger I"??

It is the Break Top that is why the serial number starts with BT..

If I remember correctly the Ranger name came along quite a bit after the gun and was somewhat dead on arrival as the gun was not going into production by that time. I always think of it as the "Breaktop" and the serial #'s confirm it

[MR_22]

Yeah, I think that's correct. I seem to remember that I had my two original Rangers in my possession before they got named Rangers. I think, so, anyway. Or at least it was pretty close.

[45flint]

This got me curious and I searched my old posts.  The early bird Break-tops were sent out end of October 2010.  I have a post where I discussed the Ranger name 11/3/10.  So the Ranger name came almost at the same time.  It was the Ranger before they decided it was a no go, because I got mine and shot a little before I realized it may be a real rarity.  It was several months into the following year before all the Rangers 1 were produced.  I think I was on a April vacation when I got a call mine second one #501 was at my gun shop? It could have been a little later.