With a Great Amount of Regret Will be Selling my EB Ranger II's

[MtGoat]

With a great amount of regret I will be looking to sell my EB Ranger II's.
It is looking as if gainful employment is coming to an end so I will be looking to downsize and "simplify".

I have two EB Ranger II's with the 22LR cylinder that I will be looking to sell on Gunbroker.
Should I try to sell together as consecutive serial numbered guns or individually?
How do I balance the need to at least break even with needing to maximize the income?
Should I put a reserve on it, should I start the auction with what I paid for the set (or individually)?

I will unfortunately be looking to sell my original unfired Ranger as well.
This one I paid over $2000 for and would like to just break even.
Is there a "best practice" for Gunbroker to hopefully get close to my investment back out of this one?

I will be putting my unfired 22 Short up as well.

Depending upon the funds generated the Bugout and Freedom Arms may get put up as well.

The toughest one to let go will be the original Ranger as I won't get a chance to get another.
The rest will be available and may be within my price range after I get my feet back under me.

Any advice as to how to put my best foot forward on Gunbroker to help these sell for as much as possible to allow me to keep at least a few would be appreciated.

Thank you
Pat

[Bj]

Sorry for your hard times.

[Ruger]

So sorry to hear of the necessities in life making you pick and choose.  We all face such choices in life . . . BUT . . one does not need to own a Mini to join in the fun and frolic of this Forum!  Stay with us; we need your opinions and stories, insights and rants!  It wouldn't be the same here without you . . .

[45flint]

Sell the consecutive numbers separately with a note on each that both have been put up for sale. Thus if someone really wants consecutive numbers he will bid on both.  I would ask what you have in them as a starting price and see where it goes, especially on the Ranger 2s.  The Ranger one is tuffer, that I might start at $1000 with a $2000 reserve?

[heyjoe]

I'm sorry that you are currently in this situation. I hope you get back on your feet soon! I never sold a gun on gunbroker, but as a buyer, clear, quality,  photos showing the firearm from all angles, and with the rangers open and closed additionally, are a definite plus and will generate additional interest.

[Warthog]

Pat,
I understand.  Mine was after my work accident and they were dragging feet on the settlement.
Had to sel a lot of firearms and other stuff to make ends meet.

I would try the consecutive serial method on the Ranger II's.

The first Ranger has taken a bit of a slide in value with the new release...at least I seems that was to me, someone more knowledge will surely  give us the skinny.

Pat, I am sorry to hear of you troubles. If there is any way I can help you, let me know, PM or post if you would rather.

[Uncle_Lee]

I agree with 45flint for the reasoning described.

[MtGoat]

Thank you all so much.

I am hoping for some sunshine this weekend to get some nice sunlit photos and get them listed and hope for the best.

Pat

[redhawk4]

Sorry too, to hear of your misfortune, although I'm  great believer in things working out in the longer term. If it was me I'd run the consecutive guns as a pair with a reserve first and see how that works, perhaps they will attract a premium. If not then just sell them separately, currently it appears getting better than what was paid would certainly seems likely, however the more that come onto Gunbroker no doubt will bring prices down.

[Uncle Fatso]

My experience has been that you don't have a fair amount of history with 99.9% or more positive feedback on gunbroker, you may find that strangers are reluctant to bid on your guns.  Maybe consider posting them in the classifieds on this forum. Worth a try anyway. No commission expense that way, either.

[redhawk4]

My experience has been that you don't have a fair amount of history with 99.9% or more positive feedback on gunbroker, you may find that strangers are reluctant to bid on your guns.  Maybe consider posting them in the classifieds on this forum. Worth a try anyway. No commission expense that way, either.

The feedback is a valid point. I sold my original BT on Gunbroker with virtually zero feedback, but I believe I referenced the fact that I had the same username on eBay and how people could reference my extensive feedback in the many hundreds there. It is also very different when selling something new, which isn't as subjective as terms like "as new" or "excellent condition" can turn out to be with some sellers out there.

[MtGoat]

I have sold several firearms on Gunbroker but had a bit more Laissez-faire attitude about it often starting at $0 and letting it go from there.
Sometimes it worked well and sometimes I wanted to buy it back from myself

Right now I am a bit less generous and hope to do well with the sale to limit the number of guns that go up on the auction block.
I wish that AR-15's were doing well right now as I would sell most off of those but wouldn't make as much as selling a few NAA's....hopefully.

Thank you for the guidance.
I am going to try the start at my purchase price and list the two separately and reference the other so someone can get both if desired.
Breaking even is good, making a bit extra would be even better.

Thank you again for the advice and support.

Pat

[MtGoat]

Well, the two EB's are listed.
I am going to throw-up now.

I lost decent light so will list the Ranger tomorrow.

Pat

[lign]

I'm so sorry to hear of your troubles. Only thing I would add is if you do not have an FFL, mention in the ad that you don't have one and they'll have to pay the fee if their FFL demands it come from one (not legally required).

I sold a gun on there years ago, and the FFL the buyer was using refused to handle the transfer even though it was perfectly legal and I researched how to ship it legally via UPS red and telling UPS what it was at the time of shipment. The dealer finally decided to do it after I sent my C&R FFL, even though the gun wasn't C&R.

[MtGoat]

I always transfer through my local dealer and pay for the transfer out of my pocket.

Years ago I was contacted about an internet sale and the buyer apparently was trying to do a straw purchase or something.
The ATF was all concerned and not very nice about it until I told them I had transferred the gun through my local dealer and not directly to their dealer.
The conversation ended abruptly and I learned a good lesson without losing any hide.

Ten dollars is very cheap insurance compared to the alternative.
The other thing is the dealer and I package the item so I have a witness in case of any claimed damage.

Pat

[RangerJim]

Pat:
I'm sorry to hear of your current situation, and I truly wish you all the best.  But I can honestly say that based on the eloquence, intelligence, respect, and decorum you have displayed in your posts on this forum, there is no doubt that you will be gainfully employed in no time.

With respect to your Rangers ... I know that you don't want to sell them, but hopefully you will do as well as the previous seller, who just got $800 for his single Ranger II—without a conversion cylinder.  And, hey ... once you're back in the saddle, you can just buy them back for less—because NAA is going to fix all the issues and flood the market with Ranger IIs! 

[MtGoat]

I fully intend to end up with a Ranger II.
I really like them.
I won't be in the esteemed company of those owning an EB series but I would rather have a shooter rather than a collector.

I still have access to a BT 22 Magnum and hope to continue feeding it for my friend.
I will wear his out then get a new one someday

Thank you

Pat

[Uncle_Lee]

I am happy to see you are ahead.
Hope you can make a bunch so these are the only ones you have to sell.

[heyjoe]

I am happy to see you are ahead.
Hope you can make a bunch so these are the only ones you have to sell.

looking good for you at this point MT Goat!

[MtGoat]

I am hoping to set a very high benchmark for the value of the EB Ranger II's.
It would benefit me as well as those on this forum.
Very much a bitter sweet deal.

Thank you all for your support.

Pat

[rogertc1]

I have managed to hold on to my Gun during hard times. Been a bunch of those times too. Sorry .

[Canoeal]

I sold 2 long guns I wish I had back, in a down time 40 years ago. I hope you recover from your issues soon. I will pray for you.

[Kimber1911]

     I feel your pain MtGoat. 22 years ago I had to sell my HD that took me 7 years to set up the way I wanted it. Had to pay my lawyer in the custody battle for my only son. The HD was the easy choice to get rid of,  after all I had only one son. I still haven't replaced the HD but I am *** proud of how my son turned out.    Thanks for reading and I pray for you MtGoat.      TTFN    R 

[Uncle_Lee]

Still going up.

[redhawk4]

While really pleased for MtGoat, given his circumstances, I'm just stunned as to the price these are going for when in theory you could go to a gun store and just buy one. Admittedly, not an EB, but still that's a big premium for a serial #.

[PaducahMichael]

I think the bidders believe this will be another limited run of Rangers and they think they'll make a killing someday when they re-sell them.

[MtGoat]

The best part is that as the bidding increases that means that hopefully I get to retain more of my other guns.
I believe that the Ranger II's will continue to be a block buster for NAA and really hope that I am right as I plan to get a regular BT sometime in the future.
This made the sale of the EB Ranger II's a bit easier.

The sale of the first edition Ranger is harder and may get delayed until after the auction for the two Ranger II's closes.
I know that I won't get a chance at a Ranger again so it is a total loss.

Thank you for the support.

Pat

[grayelky]

Sorry to hear you are having issues. I am pleasantly surprised, and happy for you, the price is much higher than I anticipated. I realize it is not much consolation, but you are at least getting a good return on your investment.

[Uncle Fatso]

Hopefully OP will make a tidy profit on the Ranger he sells as well.

[MR_22]

I think the bidders believe this will be another limited run of Rangers and they think they'll make a killing someday when they re-sell them.

Not necessarily. When any gun model is new and they are hard to find, if you check GunBroker, you'll see higher-than-average sale prices. People will pay more to get an item first. I've even done that myself. I think i bought the first USFA Zip Gun ever sold on GunBroker. I paid a bit of a premium to get it. Turns out the model had some defects in design, which took USFA two or three years to finally fix, but that's really beside the point. I got mine first! (I later sent mine in and they completely replaced it with a different firearm, but, again, that's beside the point.)

I know there are collectors out there who will pay more just to get something first. it's the simple principle of supply and demand--if lots of people want it and there are very few available, the price goes high. It's simple economics.

[heyjoe]

to make it easier for people to see here are the links to the two auctions.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/742209343
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/742207090

[redhawk4]

I think the bidders believe this will be another limited run of Rangers and they think they'll make a killing someday when they re-sell them.

Not necessarily. When any gun model is new and they are hard to find, if you check GunBroker, you'll see higher-than-average sale prices. People will pay more to get an item first. I've even done that myself. I think i bought the first USFA Zip Gun ever sold on GunBroker. I paid a bit of a premium to get it. Turns out the model had some defects in design, which took USFA two or three years to finally fix, but that's really beside the point. I got mine first! (I later sent mine in and they completely replaced it with a different firearm, but, again, that's beside the point.)

I know there are collectors out there who will pay more just to get something first. it's the simple principle of supply and demand--if lots of people want it and there are very few available, the price goes high. It's simple economics.

While I agree with what you are saying, with the % above retail, and what a production model will be available for in 6 months, I just don't get it.

[MR_22]

While I agree with what you are saying, but with the % above retail, and what a production model will be available for in 6 months, I just don't get it.

I guess we'll see what happens over the next few months.

[redhawk4]

I know I like a bargain, which may be a contributing factor, but much as I like NAA products I just don't see me paying that sort of money - I guess others see it differently. Personally, I thought the $500 + for a conversion model was pushing the limits of how badly I wanted one, there are a lot of desirable guns out there in today's marketplace.

[MR_22]

I agree, redhawk: the type of people (like us) who bought the Early Bird models are NOT the type of person who is buying them for more money.I know for a fact that there are collectors out there (big-time collectors, more than me) who have cash available and they want to buy cool guns. These MIGHT be the type of people who are bidding on these Rangers. These types of people are probably not interested in talking about NAA's here on the board, like we are, or they would have been here and probably bought them firsthand.

It takes all types to make up the world.