Black Widow

Started by kmad61, March-06-18 12:03

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kmad61

Have a Black widow that is about 6 years old.I pulled it out of the safe yesterday and cannot get the cylinder pin out to save my life...I have the old push button pin on this pistol....Anyone have any tricks to get this pin out....already called Naa to no avail.

Uncle_Lee

Welcome...
What were you told by the folks at NAA??
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

Bigbird48

try squirting a little wd40 in and around the pin

Uncle Fatso

Or a good penetrating oil such as Kroil, or PB Blaster.

Gobbletn

Quote from: kmad61 on March-06-18 12:03
Have a Black widow that is about 6 years old.I pulled it out of the safe yesterday and cannot get the cylinder pin out to save my life...I have the old push button pin on this pistol....Anyone have any tricks to get this pin out....already called Naa to no avail.
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Kroil is the way to go
Not sure why, but Dad always said "Shoot Straight" before every hunt

OV-1D

  Sometimes if you hit something in first a little it jars things up for removal .  Leather mallets are great for disturbing stuff and not harming the surfaces  .
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

pietro

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Quote from: kmad61 on March-06-18 12:03

Have a Black widow that is about 6 years old.

I pulled it out of the safe yesterday and cannot get the cylinder pin out to save my life...

I have the old push button pin on this pistol....

Anyone have any tricks to get this pin out....already called Naa to no avail.



Welcome to the forum !

Here's how:

WARNING:  If the gun is loaded, be very careful following the below instruction, AND keep it pointed in a safe direction until the cylinder is rolled out to the RH side.

1) Bring the hammer to full cock.

2) Look down inside the frame, just in front of the cocked hammer's lower section inside the frame, for the small hole in which the rear end of the cylinder pin is housed. (the cylinder pin end will be slightly recessed in that hole, as viewed from the rear).

3) With a small/strong   (about 1/16" thick) L-shaped steel tool (like an Allen wrench, the short end suitably shortened, but not too short to have room to work), place the short end of the L-tool into the hole so it rests against the rear end of the cylinder pin, and put pressure on the rear of the cylinder pin to drive it forward while the cylinder pin release button at the forward end of the cylinder pin is held down/in.

Put leverage to work via placing a small common screwdriver between the hammer base and the rear of the inserted L-tool to pry the pin forward from the rear.

( NOTE: This will work best if the grips are removed and the gripframe held in padded vise jaws (in an upright/firing position), so both hands are free to work the pin loose)


Once the cylinder pin is moved, it should then be easily removed as normal, and the cylinder rolled out to the RH side of the frame.



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Gobbletn

Quote from: pietro on March-07-18 17:03
Quote from: kmad61 on March-06-18 12:03

Have a Black widow that is about 6 years old.

I pulled it out of the safe yesterday and cannot get the cylinder pin out to save my life...

I have the old push button pin on this pistol....

Anyone have any tricks to get this pin out....already called Naa to no avail.



Welcome to the forum !

Here's how:

WARNING:  If the gun is loaded, be very careful following the below instruction, AND keep it pointed in a safe direction until the cylinder is rolled out to the RH side.

1) Bring the hammer to full cock.

2) Look down inside the frame, just in front of the cocked hammer's lower section inside the frame, for the small hole in which the rear end of the cylinder pin is housed. (the cylinder pin end will be slightly recessed in that hole, as viewed from the rear).

3) With a small/strong   (about 1/16" thick) L-shaped steel tool (like an Allen wrench, the short end suitably shortened, but not too short to have room to work), place the short end of the L-tool into the hole so it rests against the rear end of the cylinder pin, and put pressure on the rear of the cylinder pin to drive it forward while the cylinder pin release button at the forward end of the cylinder pin is held down/in.

Put leverage to work via placing a small common screwdriver between the hammer base and the rear of the inserted L-tool to pry the pin forward from the rear.

( NOTE: This will work best if the grips are removed and the gripframe held in padded vise jaws (in an upright/firing position), so both hands are free to work the pin loose)


Once the cylinder pin is moved, it should then be easily removed as normal, and the cylinder rolled out to the RH side of the frame.



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A drop of Kroil in that same hole and left over night should work without hitting it at all if possible....
Not sure why, but Dad always said "Shoot Straight" before every hunt

Bigbird48

yes avoid hitting the pin with anything if possible.  ::)oil, liquid wrench, WD40, PB blaster anything but the Hammer LOL  ;D

RICKS PLACE


The poster mentioned his B-W was about 6 years old. My middle B-W had the fired brass in an envelope from NAA indicating a date of 8/11/2010. I had an older B-W that that my son still carries.  Both have the newer rod in use today.  Anyone know when NAA stopped making the "push pin" style?