New Ranger II

Started by dbrn, March-21-18 12:03

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dbrn

Got  one  today  from  local gs.  he  had  14  come in,  had 2  left  when I got  there.   Have  not  shot it yet, but  feels  good and  solid.   

rustyzues


smokeless joe

Take that baby to the range and let us know how she performs.

dbrn

I will.  I am  not  having  any  cocking issues   the cylinder  turns as it  should .  very  smooth.  I hope it  shoots well.

smokeless joe

Quote from: dbrn on March-21-18 18:03
I will.  I am  not  having  any  cocking issues   the cylinder  turns as it  should .  very  smooth.  I hope it  shoots well.
Me too. For all of us. Keep us posted. By the way what serial number? Wondering how many are out there now.

dbrn

BTN00422    Hope  this helps. 

smokeless joe

422. Getting up there. Yes, thanks for the info.

BIGBEAR

on reply #5 on 21 mar 2018,
just got my new ranger 2 s/n btn00421,
are you haveing cocking issues ? i am.after closing , to cock hammer, i have to manually rotate cylinder.
after diong this once it will cock everytime untill i reload. hen i have to rotate cylinder again , while cocking the hammer.
whats wrong ?

dbrn

Hello,  All I have  done  is  clean  my  gun  and  oil  real  good.  I have  been  I have been useing snap caps and practicing  reloading.  opening  the  gun.   So  far  no  problems, I will shoot  it  today.   Dan

ELK52

Good Morning, I purchased BTN 00217. All seems to be good and I will let you all know how it performs.

dbrn


JRobyn

Quote from: BIGBEAR on March-22-18 19:03
on reply #5 on 21 mar 2018,
just got my new ranger 2 s/n btn00421,
are you haveing cocking issues ? i am.after closing , to cock hammer, i have to manually rotate cylinder.
after diong this once it will cock everytime untill i reload. hen i have to rotate cylinder again , while cocking the hammer.
whats wrong ?

It sounds like something is preventing the "hand" from rotating the cylinder quite far enough for the hammer to cock.  You can look (a magnifier can help) at both the hand and the "star" that the hand contacts on the back of the cylinder to see if there are any machining burrs you can clean up that might help.  With it unloaded, run it through a number of cycles while closely observing the hand and cylinder for any abnormalities.  If you don't find anything odd with this, there are probably some slight internal fitment issues that would be best for a return trip to NAA to resolve.

redhawk4

Quote from: BIGBEAR on March-22-18 19:03
on reply #5 on 21 mar 2018,
just got my new ranger 2 s/n btn00421,
are you haveing cocking issues ? i am.after closing , to cock hammer, i have to manually rotate cylinder.
after diong this once it will cock everytime untill i reload. hen i have to rotate cylinder again , while cocking the hammer.
whats wrong ?

This has been a common issue with the Ranger II, mine suffered from those problems, but after it's second visit to NAA, they are completely gone. I don't have to align the cylinder or anything, just close the action and cock the gun and it all sorts itself out as it should, no hint of bind at all. I think it was some tolerance issue between the hand and the star of the extractor, something wasn't right and the hand pushes against the cylinder in a manner where it cannot rotate it.
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OV-1D

  Cylinder timing describes most everyone's issues . Its gotta go back for corrections .
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dbrn

Ok. just  got  back  from  shooting  my new  ranger II.  I shot  30 rnds of hornady  30 grain, 30  rnds of cci 30grain. and 30 rnd of cci 40 grain.  I had no  malfunctions.  It  shot  all ammo great.  N o problems  with cylinder or hammer.  bullets all extracted  well.  I also love  the feel of  the ranger less recoil  than the other na's I have  shot.  I know  this is only 90 rnds,  but  so  far  so  good.   Regards Dan

ikoiko

Thanks for the report and please keep us updated.

RogueTS1

If the hand does not turn the cylinder far enough it is too short and needs replacing. If the hand turns the cylinder too far then it is too long and needs to be shortened a little until the cylinder aligns with the barrel and locks into place.

All this providing there are no burs or nicks in the star as stated above.
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redhawk4

Quote from: RogueTS1 on March-23-18 10:03
If the hand does not turn the cylinder far enough it is too short and needs replacing. If the hand turns the cylinder too far then it is too long and needs to be shortened a little until the cylinder aligns with the barrel and locks into place.

All this providing there are no burs or nicks in the star as stated above.

I think there was a machining issues with the star on my original cylinder, the hand would come out, but then in certain positions it seemed to "stab" into the star in a position where it couldn't turn the cylinder. That's what it seemed like from playing around with it. It's a very different gun in that department now, so much smoother in addition to the perfect function.
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dbrn

When you  refer  to  the hand, what are you talking  about.

franco22

Good to hear some positive reports on the Ranger II. I've decided  to wait till the bugs are worked out before I purchase one. At one point I was seeing so many bad reviews that I thought they might discontinue it.

JRobyn

#20
Quote from: dbrn on March-23-18 15:03
When you  refer  to  the hand, what are you talking  about.

It's the little "lever" that rises up from its slot in the back of the cylinder cutout in the frame. It's p/n 18 on your handy Ranger II Parts Breakdown Drawing.

In the attached photo, it is the flat "bar" just to the right of the cylinder pin hole.  This shows it retracted, as it will be at half-cock.  As you begin cocking, it will extend to engage the star on the cylinder, and simultaneously rise up to
rotate the cylinder.



dbrn


cpool222

Quote from: dbrn on March-23-18 10:03
Ok. just  got  back  from  shooting  my new  ranger II.  I shot  30 rnds of hornady  30 grain, 30  rnds of cci 30grain. and 30 rnd of cci 40 grain.  I had no  malfunctions.  It  shot  all ammo great.  N o problems  with cylinder or hammer.  bullets all extracted  well.  I also love  the feel of  the ranger less recoil  than the other na's I have  shot.  I know  this is only 90 rnds,  but  so  far  so  good.   Regards Dan

How is the trigger pull?  My new Sidewinder's trigger pull is much harder that my old NAA 22 magnum (which was an easy pull brand new out of the box).  I've been thinking that I'd sell it and buy a Ranger, but wondering how that trigger pull feels.

dbrn

Well crap!  I thought I had a good one.  But now it has started  having  cocking issues, cylinder won't  rotate,  I have  to manually  rotate  the  cylinder. to put it in a notch.  I have  cleaned and oiled it.  I am going  to ask for a refund and buy a sidewinder. will they give me a refund?     Does naa pay  for return  shipping?   I have owned  may  Naa  products  with no issues.  This is upsetting  because I realy liked  this gun.   Regards  Dan

redhawk4

Quote from: dbrn on April-06-18 13:04
Well crap!  I thought I had a good one.  But now it has started  having  cocking issues, cylinder won't  rotate,  I have  to manually  rotate  the  cylinder. to put it in a notch.  I have  cleaned and oiled it.  I am going  to ask for a refund and buy a sidewinder. will they give me a refund?     Does naa pay  for return  shipping?   I have owned  may  Naa  products  with no issues.  This is upsetting  because I realy liked  this gun.   Regards  Dan

I think only one person on the forum has gone the refund route so far, so I don't know how it works, I would imagine if you contact NAA they would send you a shipping label. I'd contact NAA and see how the procedure works.
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dbrn

Thanks  for the help.   

Bigbird48

#26
Dan you say you have to manually rotate the cyl to get it in the safety notch, this is normal. But if its not rotating when you cock the hammer then thats a problem.  What was your ser num??

dbrn


dbrn

#28
update,  The issues I was having with my Ranger II Have resolved.  I was going  to send it back. But I started to just work the hammer back and forth  several times daily.  I took the the cylinder off and cleaned the back of it. I have no problems with cocking  the hammer or  the cylinder rotating as it should since.  .   I am not a guy  who knows about  breaking  guns down.  I know how  to clean and oil lublricate  etc  General gun maintenance. I have owned guns all my life,  When I got this gun it was very tight and stiff.  very hard  to cock the hammer.  I shot 90 rnds through it with no  problems.   Now it seems perfectly fine.   I was going  to send it back.     I will hang on to it.       Regards  Dan

PaducahMichael

Great news, Dan! Have fun.
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Uncle_Lee

Good to hear a positive report.
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Gobbletn

Quote from: BIGBEAR on March-22-18 19:03
on reply #5 on 21 mar 2018,
just got my new ranger 2 s/n btn00421,
are you haveing cocking issues ? i am.after closing , to cock hammer, i have to manually rotate cylinder.
after diong this once it will cock everytime untill i reload. hen i have to rotate cylinder again , while cocking the hammer.
whats wrong ?

Send it back. They will pay for shipping both ways. NAA is very good at attempting to correct the problems.... These need to be 100% correct. Don't settle for 2nd best.
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Manticore

Picked up a RangerII last Saturday & got s/n 564.  Ordered the GHG-M Magnum Holster Grip after watching a video review by hickok45.
Got the grip 3 days later and had it on the R2 in about 10 minutes.  I haven't been to the range with it yet, but it gives a nice secure grip to hold on to and when folded it drops comfortably into my pocket, very nice.
Chris

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oughtsix

Where are you guys finding the rangers?  I have never seen anything except the basic 22 lr and 22 mag in the gun shops I have gone to.  I would love to pick up a Ranger and a sidewinder but shipping plus transfer fees etc. put them a good margin above list.  Are you guys paying above list?