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Started by cpool222, March-31-18 20:03

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cpool222

March-31-18 20:03
Took my new Sidewinder 22 mag to the gun range for the first time today and sadly had a bunch of misfires.  I used CCI Maxi Mags and white box Winchesters and each time that I reloaded, I had 2 or 3 that didn't fire.  I then loaded the rounds into my old NAA and they fired just fine, so it wasn't the ammo.  Anyone else had this problem?  I never had a problem with my old NAA, so am I supposed to talk to the gun dealer that sold it to me or contact NAA?  Thanks for any help.

smokeless joe

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April-02-18 05:04
Quote from: cpool222 on March-31-18 20:03
Took my new Sidewinder 22 mag to the gun range for the first time today and sadly had a bunch of misfires.  I used CCI Maxi Mags and white box Winchesters and each time that I reloaded, I had 2 or 3 that didn't fire.  I then loaded the rounds into my old NAA and they fired just fine, so it wasn't the ammo.  Anyone else had this problem?  I never had a problem with my old NAA, so am I supposed to talk to the gun dealer that sold it to me or contact NAA?  Thanks for any help.
It's still possible that it was the ammo. When you loaded it in your other mini it struck it in a different spot. I've turned ammo in the same gun and turned a misfire into a fire.

Bigbird48

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April-02-18 07:04
I agree it still could be ammo altho I've never had problems with CCI . I could be a weak main spring. Try it again and if it still misfires contact NAA they will fix it.

OV-1D

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April-02-18 07:04
  By far the worst ammo is Aguila trash , any ammo other than U.S. made (for a long time) are all questionable but especially that Aguila . A lot of newer brands out there now but I'll stick to Winchester and Remington third would be CCI for moderately priced ammo sure theres that high end stuff but its just a brand name your buying not much else with reliability if any . 
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cbl51

#4
April-02-18 07:04
One round not firing per cylinder, maybe ammo. Two, let alone three rounds per cylinder is not ammo. That gun has to go back to NAA.

OV-1D

#5
April-02-18 07:04
  Should be very visible if your hammer is making a good extension .
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redhawk4

#6
April-02-18 10:04
2-3 rounds per cylinder, with two different brands of ammo, which fire OK in another NAA, has to be a fault with that particular Sidewinder both IMO and from a statistical point of view. The probability of it not being the gun is really small.
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Uncle_Lee

#7
April-03-18 04:04
It may have to go back.
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sillygoose

#8
April-03-18 12:04
my  wasp mag cylinder is doing the same thing. the lr one hits good but the mag is misfire happy its a bummer because the cost of shipping to them and the 25 for return shipping just jacked my investment up another 45 bucks.

cbl51

#9
April-03-18 13:04
Is NAA farming out the production of the cylinders?

PaducahMichael

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April-03-18 15:04
I had thought that they were all in house with very few exceptions (screws, grips and such)
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linux_author

#11
April-03-18 15:04
Quote from: OV-1D on April-02-18 07:04
  By far the worst ammo is Aguila trash , any ammo other than U.S. made (for a long time) are all questionable but especially that Aguila .

interesting... have been using several thousand rounds of Aguila Super Extra, Colibri, and Super Extra HV LR with no problems - the Colibri is like shooting paperclips (phhhhttt!)...

admittedly, the Aguila stuff is 'dirty'...

but i've now settled on US-made Fiocchi HV for 22LR... great stuff and makes clean-up after range time a lot easier...

the worst stuff i've shot is Federal bulk (325-packs)

on_topic: i hope the OP gets his Ranger sorted out... i keep checking for them to show up in the commercial pipeline down here...

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

sillygoose

#12
April-04-18 04:04
unfortunately my best friend and I went to a gunshop yesterday and there was a ported magnum with both cylinders and the long rifle shot 30 rounds great and then it would misfire but if it was cycled back around it would fire the bullet . the mag cylinder did ok but it dosnt have enough strength to hit the hornady v max .he traded it back in for a Remington 380

Canoeal

#13
April-04-18 07:04 Last Edit: April-04-18 07:04 by Canoeal
Yours sounds like a weak mainspring. It is strong enough to set off the thinner cased 22lrs, but not so much with the thicker cases on the 
22 mag...Just a thought.
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cpool222

#14
April-04-18 19:04
Quote from: redhawk4 on April-02-18 10:04
2-3 rounds per cylinder, with two different brands of ammo, which fire OK in another NAA, has to be a fault with that particular Sidewinder both IMO and from a statistical point of view. The probability of it not being the gun is really small.

That was my thought exactly.  I took it back to the dealer that I bought it from and he tried some Hornady ammo in it and it did exactly the same thing, so it seems that it has to be the gun, so he's sending it back for me. He's a really nice guy, very helpful.  Unfortunately, I expect that I'll still have to sell it because I dislike the trigger so much.  My older NAA has a great trigger, but this one is so hard to pull that I wouldn't trust it in an emergency concealed carry situation.  I read a review yesterday in which the reviewer agreed with me that these Sidewinders have a much harder to pull trigger than other NAAs.  The only trigger that I've seen that was harder to pull was on a Cobra brand derringer.  I wonder if others have seen that with the Sidewinders.  Wondering if the trigger is easier on the Ranger II.

redhawk4

#15
April-05-18 09:04
The bad trigger could be related to the misfiring issue if something is awry with the hammer spring and mechanism. Make sure you advise NAA of all the issues, that way they can perhaps improve the trigger pull.
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cpool222

#16
April-06-18 07:04
Quote from: redhawk4 on April-05-18 09:04
The bad trigger could be related to the misfiring issue if something is awry with the hammer spring and mechanism. Make sure you advise NAA of all the issues, that way they can perhaps improve the trigger pull.

I truly don't think its ammo, especially after the dealer tried his own Hornady ammo and it did exactly the same thing.  He's sending it back to NAA.  He is going to tell them about my problem with the trigger, but my guess is that I'm out of luck with that issue. This article http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/02/jeremy-s/gun-review-naa-4-sidewinder/  is an overall very positive review of the Sidewinder addresses the trigger issue exactly as I'm seeing it.  I really think for a guy with big, strong hands it won't be a problem, but at 66 years old and small hands with a tiny bit of arthritis I'm afraid I'm out of luck and will probably have to sell it.  Strange because my old NAA 22 magnum has had a very easy trigger ever since the day that I bought it.  I'm wondering if any of the other modern NAA pistols have kept the old easier-to-pull trigger?  Anyone know?  Thanks
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