Ranger II

[KnD Ken]

G'Day all,

Big NAA addict here. Wanted a Ranger since they come out. Like all of us I seen the hiccups with the first ones.

Am I right to think that the ones now with both 22lr and 22mag are later builds.

Do these guns have any major issues???

No jumping all over them.... we have heard enough of that.

I have one coming so it does not matter what is said,,,, I just want honest answers.

Ken Jones.
NAA Addict.

[redhawk4]

I have to say I've been underwhelmed by my Ranger II. I need to return it again when I get around to it. I need the upgraded front sight, which having seen them doesn't excite from an aesthetic point of view and do something about the fact that every time I've fired it I end up with my face bleeding where stuff sprays back at me.

I'm sure the more recent models have improved in function, and think if it's a 22LR and Mag combination, that's not an EB, it will be more recent production, so will do better.

It's unfortunate that when you buy something and have some issues that you then start to notice other things that you might otherwise not have let bother you. Probably because of the issues I've encountered I find myself at odds with some of the design, over the original Ranger I owned. I don't like how the cylinder is retained, or not, as is often the case when it prefers to extract that over the empty cases and a few other things, and I'd really like a blade front sight, as opposed to the ugly looking raised bead sight that is needed to get it to shoot anywhere near POA. Others I'm sure have had a different experience, mine has slid to the back of the gun cabinet and even though I'm only a few miles from the factory I've had the worst procrastination in terms of getting it sorted, so some of it is my fault too. My defense is that I bought several other guns just after the Ranger II which have treated me flawlessly and so I've been enjoying them and deliberately avoided the frustration at the range of giving the Ranger II another try, to clearly identify the remaining issues.

[Warthog]

Well, I love mine but haven't been able to shoot them.  Health issues, but I will and then if I don't like them I will tell folks this as well....

[cfsharry]

Ken,
Would appreciate an honest review after you've had a chance to shoot it some. I cancelled my early bird order as soon as problems became apparent. Have not seen or heard much meaningful since.
Really want this gun but not wanting the hassle of a bad gun out of the box.

[KnD Ken]

I too was offered an EB edition.... but like you all ,, I LOVE NAA but I was scared. So I passed.

Until yesterday when I seen a conversion model listed on gunbroker and my wife said I could have it (I love her). As said, I figured it to be a later build as it was a conversion model. We shall see.

I do know that NAA could teach customer service so I have no issues they will look after me as they always have.

[linux_author]

my Ranger II had issues with the hammer being impinged by the latch, resulting in light strikes - it was close enough to be a problem at first, but continued use has smoothed out the edges

(you can see the friction marks on the left side of the hammer and top)

other than that, the little revolver is plenty accurate - i took a tiny bit of ultra-thin white shrink tubing, shrank it, then affixed it onto the front sight post w/a tiny dab of cyanoacrylate - this works much better than painting the sight, which didn't seem to last very long

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[gunner2]

sounds like if its throwing stuff backe in your face, its not timed correctly

[redhawk4]

It's timed properly as far as I can tell, I think it's an ammo/design issue. The Ranger II frame is very narrow in front of the cylinder and I feel this allows the gas and anything else coming out through the cylinder gap to come back at you, how you hold the gun and stand are also factors as to whether it gets you or not, due to my size I'm a big target. The issue seems worse with certain ammo, if I recall correctly it's the Hornady that is the worst.  I need to send it back for a couple of other things, so I'll have them check that. When all the issues are lumped together and then you are firing a gun that is inaccurate in a fairly random way, it really takes away the fun of shooting it.

[flyinbiker2001]

Mine is in the 1500 ser # range no problems at all it shoots fine and no abnormal wear so far , I'm enjoying it greatly

[Bigbird48]

RedHawk I feel your pain, mine too has become a safe Queen. Altho after its 3rd return from the mother ship it seemed OK I just can't put my trust in it ti carry. . When I get back home again I'll take it out and see if I can get to like  it.

[KnD Ken]

NAA just told me that my baby's DOB is October 4th.

Just a baby.

[redhawk4]

RedHawk I feel your pain, mine too has become a safe Queen. Altho after its 3rd return from the mother ship it seemed OK I just can't put my trust in it ti carry. . When I get back home again I'll take it out and see if I can get to like  it.

I'd never carry mine either, which then for me defeats it's whole reason to exist. It might have found a purpose as a cheap plinking gun for a bit of fun, but it's inconsistent inaccuracy rules that out. In hind sight I wish I'd taken the refund when offered and bought a Minimaster instead.

While I see people stating no issues with later models, and can see how they have got around some of the frutating issues, I don't see how my main dislike for the design, of the cylinder popping out when the action is opened has been solved as that was just a design weakness IMO, not enough overlap for the locking device. I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed to fire 50 rounds rapidly through one and been able to extract the cases with out the Ranger going into the "automatic, tactical cylinder change mode" when the gun gets hot. Certainly not the best $500 I've spent IME.

[KnD Ken]

Got my baby yesterday.

[OV-1D]

  Every industry is rushing to get their product out with little thought to its reputations when it comes to longevity of the company or its operations of products . Even NASA has the same problems . If a think tank was involved for everything we would still be in the 1800's but that would probably be a good thing . An old adage measure twice (maybe three times) cut once is the kind of thinking that is needed these days . Slow down take a deep breath and lets talk about it awhile , a long while . Can't imagine all the headaches and money and time when a new production item comes out and fails . Sometimes going bankrupt is the only answer , its happened thru out the ages into today .     

[Bigbird48]

RedHawk I feel your pain, mine too has become a safe Queen. Altho after its 3rd return from the mother ship it seemed OK I just can't put my trust in it ti carry. . When I get back home again I'll take it out and see if I can get to like  it.

I'd never carry mine either, which then for me defeats it's whole reason to exist. It might have found a purpose as a cheap plinking gun for a bit of fun, but it's inconsistent inaccuracy rules that out. In hind sight I wish I'd taken the refund when offered and bought a Minimaster instead.

While I see people stating no issues with later models, and can see how they have got around some of the frutating issues, I don't see how my main dislike for the design, of the cylinder popping out when the action is opened has been solved as that was just a design weakness IMO, not enough overlap for the locking device. I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed to fire 50 rounds rapidly through one and been able to extract the cases with out the Ranger going into the "automatic, tactical cylinder change mode" when the gun gets hot. Certainly not the best $500 I've spent IME.

Well I won't be back home to test mine for a while yet, I might have to send it back one more time. we'll see

[Canoeal]

Went to the LGS/indoor range today. Shot lousy, as is to be expected having only been there one other time this year. I did get to see and hold a Ranger II that was in the counter for sale. let's just say it was more than I would pay, and it does look a little delicate for EDC in 22 mag...$ 459.99...

[Canoeal]

RedHawk I feel your pain, mine too has become a safe Queen. Altho after its 3rd return from the mother ship it seemed OK I just can't put my trust in it ti carry. . When I get back home again I'll take it out and see if I can get to like  it.

I'd never carry mine either, which then for me defeats it's whole reason to exist. It might have found a purpose as a cheap plinking gun for a bit of fun, but it's inconsistent inaccuracy rules that out. In hind sight I wish I'd taken the refund when offered and bought a Minimaster instead.


While I see people stating no issues with later models, and can see how they have got around some of the frutating issues, I don't see how my main dislike for the design, of the cylinder popping out when the action is opened has been solved as that was just a design weakness IMO, not enough overlap for the locking device. I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed to fire 50 rounds rapidly through one and been able to extract the cases with out the Ranger going into the "automatic, tactical cylinder change mode" when the gun gets hot. Certainly not the best $500 I've spent IME.

Well I won't be back home to test mine for a while yet, I might have to send it back one more time. we'll see

Got a date for the surgery yet? My wife gets her shoulder replaced Monday...

[bearcatter]

  Every industry is rushing to get their product out ......

Too much gets introduced and then recalled. I guess that's why I don't trust buying the latest of anything, I prefer "tried and true". All of the guns I 've ever owned were old designs when I bought them, as were my cars and other things. I just bought my first flat screen TV three years ago, and still have two old CRT sets in use. Kept a landline well after cell phones came out, and mine is still just a flip phone...

[Bigbird48]

RedHawk I feel your pain, mine too has become a safe Queen. Altho after its 3rd return from the mother ship it seemed OK I just can't put my trust in it ti carry. . When I get back home again I'll take it out and see if I can get to like  it.

I'd never carry mine either, which then for me defeats it's whole reason to exist. It might have found a purpose as a cheap plinking gun for a bit of fun, but it's inconsistent inaccuracy rules that out. In hind sight I wish I'd taken the refund when offered and bought a Minimaster instead.


While I see people stating no issues with later models, and can see how they have got around some of the frutating issues, I don't see how my main dislike for the design, of the cylinder popping out when the action is opened has been solved as that was just a design weakness IMO, not enough overlap for the locking device. I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed to fire 50 rounds rapidly through one and been able to extract the cases with out the Ranger going into the "automatic, tactical cylinder change mode" when the gun gets hot. Certainly not the best $500 I've spent IME.

Well I won't be back home to test mine for a while yet, I might have to send it back one more time. we'll see

Got a date for the surgery yet? My wife gets her shoulder replaced Monday...

Yes Surgery  on the 24th they say a month of rehab here before I can drive back to AZ, yea well we'll see about that LOL Hope your wife's goes well too.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Good luck to both of you! 

[OV-1D]

  Ditto on that BigBird .

[Uncle_Lee]

Good Luck and prayers go with all going under the knife.

[Canoeal]

Jean's surgery went well. She comes home tomorrow.
Praying Bigbird's goes as well.

[redhawk4]

Good news, lets hope the same for al and a speedy and full recovery.

[Honky Tonk Man]

That's good news Al.  One down and one to go (BigBird).

[Bigbird48]

Great news Al I'm headed in tomorrow morning.I have a good DR so I'm pretty sure I'll be fine. Thanks for all the good prayers

[Uncle_Lee]

Great news Al I'm headed in tomorrow morning.I have a good DR so I'm pretty sure I'll be fine. Thanks for all the good prayers

Post some pictures of the staples.

[Canoeal]

My wife's knee, done by the doctors of Rothman, did not even have any staples... Mine did...

[Uncle_Lee]

My wife knee done by the doctors of Rothman did not even have any staples... Mine did...

How did they hold it shut??

[Canoeal]

Stitches on the inside, some new kind of Glue on the outside. It worked much better than my 50+ stitches in the first knee...

[billmeek]

Probably medical-grade n-butyl cyanoacrylate (aka super glue) like LiquiBand

[Uncle_Lee]

They plugged up my holes with superglue when they took out my gallbladder but I didn't think it would hold on the knees. I even pulled a couple of staples on my left knee the last time. Bent it too far too soon.

[autofull]

i have managed to unlatch mine cocking it way too many times. i do have huge hands so back to the pug triplets again. just my slant.

[redhawk4]

i have managed to unlatch mine cocking it way too many times. i do have huge hands so back to the pug triplets again. just my slant.

I have huge hands too, the secret is to put the pad of your thumb on the hammer checkering, not reach over the top. I've never had that issue, but the Ranger II failed the "carry" test" on too many other accounts for that particular issue to be a prime concern.

[smokeless joe]

Got my baby yesterday.

So have you taken her out for the once over Ken?