Single shot NAA Ranger target pistol

[taku]

Similar to Smith & Wesson 2nd model single shot pistol, could you see a version of the NAA Ranger being released?   I would buy one in 22 mag or 32 acp, if available.

[MR_22]

It would be cool, but i agree, what's the point? The 5-shot revolver is the same size. It would be a collector item, for sure. I would get one, but it wouldn't be made as a self-defense weapon, so I don't think NAA would do it.

[taku]

The point?

Precision shooting.

[heyjoe]

LOL! Precision shooting out of a mini...

there are some people on here whose intelligence levels have showed that like Barney Fife, they shouldnt be trusted with more than one round at a time. so it might be a good idea after all for a single shot mini.

[OV-1D]

LOL! Precision shooting out of a mini...

there are some people on here whose intelligence levels have showed that like Barney Fife, they shouldnt be trusted with more than one round at a time. so it might be a good idea after all for a single shot mini.

   HeyJoe I think you are getting cabin fever by the way your coming off lately . I smile when saying this .

[kc]

Hey taku, that sounds good to me! A couple of years ago I posted something similar (copied below)..... to a similar reception, lol.     

I know it's way too soon to be wanting NAA to start another new project, but down the road a piece, when production is up to demand on the Ranger ii and we go back to talking about what we'd like to see them come out with... here's my vote. Being a fan of single-shots - handguns, rifles & shotguns - as well as break-top revolvers... I'd like to see NAA use their Ranger break-top design platform to produce a single-shot pistol.
Using the current frame, hinged barrel & lockup design, and eliminating the parts & processes specific to a revolver, it should be a relatively easy & inexpensive "new" design to bring to production. Something as simple as this

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/hopkins-allen-new-model-22lr-caliber-revolver-pr31894/

but smaller.

Think of the potential. Really good sights, with a variety of barrel lengths... perhaps interchangeable for the rimfires. Super-accurate dedicated .22 short (& .22lr) target-grade barrels.

Perhaps even a single-shot carbine.... maybe disassembling at the hinge - a "take-down" model. Or folding, similar to the little Chiappa .22. Hmmm.

With no cylinder and related chamber-wall thickness/chamber pressure restrictions, a small center-fire caliber might work (like the inherently-accurate .32)... in a pistol and carbine.

A lot of new accessories could be offered for such a model line, too. Target style grips.. travel case.. backpack case.. butt-stock ammo holder.. sling..

Sounds good to me... but like I mentioned, I like single shots. Especially unique, elegant ones. I do think that, marketed as an accurate sporting firearm (as opposed to defensive), it would sure attract many that aren't currently in the naa "fold" and really broaden the NAA fan base.

[bearcatter]

NAA's chosen product line is concealed carry and self defense. NAA could do a beautiful job of making anything they wanted; they've had 20+ years to do so, so I doubt they will start now.

[Wumbey Goomba]

If they made it.
Would you buy it?
Me too.

[theysayimnotme]

So you want them to re-invent the wheel. A single shot take-down target pistol with barrels in different calibers & able to take a shoulder stock & rifle barrels already exists. I have a Thompson Contender pistol frame  a shoulder stock & .22 LR, .357 Maximum , .45/70, 30/30, & .223 barrels.

[Wumbey Goomba]

Someone, maybe said that about the "Short frame"
way back when.
I have two.

[Canoeal]

Someone, maybe said that about the “Short frame”
way back when.
I have two.

The short was one of the first NAAs made.

[Wumbey Goomba]

So before that.

[adp3]

The lock work would have to be re-engineered to safely accommodate a loaded round UNDER the hammer. A cross bolt safety might accomplish it. The safety notches on an NAA revolver cylinder or carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber are options to safely carry an NAA revolver. A single shot with no safety provision would invite accidents if the gun were dropped. The cross bolt safety would probably make it workable. Seems like one of the Charter Arms Company incarnations made a copy of the NAA mini that had a cross bolt safety, but I could easily be in error. It may have been called the "Dixie". I used to have a cheap Hawes copy of a Stevens Tip Off single shot .22. I shot the heck out of it and enjoyed every minute of it. Put an NAA single shot on a magnum sized frame with a 4" barrel and sights that were useable, and I'd definitely buy one. 

Best Regards,
ADP3

[Uncle_Lee]

The lock work would have to be re-engineered to safely accommodate a loaded round UNDER the hammer. A cross bolt safety might accomplish it. The safety notches on an NAA revolver cylinder or carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber are options to safely carry an NAA revolver. A single shot with no safety provision would invite accidents if the gun were dropped. The cross bolt safety would probably make it workable. Seems like one of the Charter Arms Company incarnations made a copy of the NAA mini that had a cross bolt safety, but I could easily be in error. It may have been called the "Dixie". I used to have a cheap Hawes copy of a Stevens Tip Off single shot .22. I shot the heck out of it and enjoyed every minute of it. Put an NAA single shot on a magnum sized frame with a 4" barrel and sights that were useable, and I'd definitely buy one. 

Best Regards,
ADP3

It is called a Mini Master.

[Uncle_Lee]

So before that.

The  first minis of our type was made by Rocky Mountain Arms and chambered in .22 short.

[adp3]

The lock work would have to be re-engineered to safely accommodate a loaded round UNDER the hammer. A cross bolt safety might accomplish it. The safety notches on an NAA revolver cylinder or carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber are options to safely carry an NAA revolver. A single shot with no safety provision would invite accidents if the gun were dropped. The cross bolt safety would probably make it workable. Seems like one of the Charter Arms Company incarnations made a copy of the NAA mini that had a cross bolt safety, but I could easily be in error. It may have been called the "Dixie". I used to have a cheap Hawes copy of a Stevens Tip Off single shot .22. I shot the heck out of it and enjoyed every minute of it. Put an NAA single shot on a magnum sized frame with a 4" barrel and sights that were useable, and I'd definitely buy one. 

Best Regards,
ADP3

It is called a Mini Master.

Except a Mini Master is not a Single Shot.

Best Regards,
ADP3

[CavScout]

NAA's chosen product line is concealed carry and self defense. NAA could do a beautiful job of making anything they wanted; they've had 20+ years to do so, so I doubt they will start now.

Production of mini-revolvers by Freedom Arms ceased in 1990. The mini-revolver design was sold to North American Arms.
~~ Wiki

As we know, Freedom Arms went on to Produce a line of Full Size Revolvers, while Continuing the Legacy of Precision Manufacturing.

Their current line of Products, while Marvelous, are beyond Most of our Budgets.

The Ranger I was an Example that NAA is Dedicated to an "Affordable" Product Line... All while continuing their Dedication to Precision Manufacturing.

Economy of Production comes with Volume Sales.

Specialized "Niche" Products will Always be Difficult to Cost Justify New Tooling and Assembly lines.

[taku]

The lock work would have to be re-engineered to safely accommodate a loaded round UNDER the hammer. A cross bolt safety might accomplish it. The safety notches on an NAA revolver cylinder or carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber are options to safely carry an NAA revolver. A single shot with no safety provision would invite accidents if the gun were dropped. The cross bolt safety would probably make it workable. Seems like one of the Charter Arms Company incarnations made a copy of the NAA mini that had a cross bolt safety, but I could easily be in error. It may have been called the "Dixie". I used to have a cheap Hawes copy of a Stevens Tip Off single shot .22. I shot the heck out of it and enjoyed every minute of it. Put an NAA single shot on a magnum sized frame with a 4" barrel and sights that were useable, and I'd definitely buy one. 

Best Regards,
ADP3

It is called a Mini Master.

Except a Mini Master is not a Single Shot.

Best Regards,
ADP3

Let's weld the cylinder to the frame. Add filler metal to zero the gap. Shave the cylinder since only one round is needed.

I am seeing so many reasons why it can't be done. Let's focus on how it can be done.

[taku]

Focusing on the negative leads to more negative.  When you focus on the good, the good gets better.

[CavScout]

Focusing on the negative leads to more negative.  When you focus on the good, the good gets better.

A Break-Open Single-Shot Firearm is about as Simple as a Breechloading Firearm can get.
Even Henry's Single-Shot Firearms are among their Most Economical Models.

NAA Engineering would have NO Trouble Designing a Safe-to-Carry-While-Loaded Prototype.

It also would be a Reasonably Simple Effort to Design a Pistol/Carbine Conversion Option... ala TC Contender.

The Journey to a Working Prototype for Market Testing IS NOT the Negative that would Defeat the Concept.

NAA, unlike it's Predecessor, Freedom Arms, has Chosen to Remain as a Mini-Handgun Market Niche.

The Guardian line is a Departure from the Wheelgun and Rimfire Roots... but is Far from what the Market Associates with the NAA Brand.

With Rimfire and some Centerfire Single-Shots already on the Market for Under $200... There's not much Incentive to Pursue a Market Share in that Limited Firearm Niche.

I too Love Single-Shots!... I have the following in My collection:

1) Remington 510 .22 (My First Rifle, I got for my 10th Birthday)
2) 1894 Stevens Favorite, 2nd Edition
3) 1972 Stevens Crackshot
4) Older than me Family Stevens Single 12 ga.
5) 1886 US Issue .45 Springfield Carbine
6) Winchester Limited Series 1885 Short Hunter 38-55
7) Chiappa Little Badger Deluxe (Wood) .22 Mag
Gun Cabinet Full of Sidelock Muzzle Loaders