Mini barrel-cylinder gap?

Started by bearcatter, February-11-22 17:02

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bearcatter

Has anyone ever checked the gap? I can't find it stated with specific numbers. It's a big deal with some people in their normal sized revolvers. It's not considered as important with rimfire calibers.

It might be hard to check on a mini? How much space is between the top strap and cylinder pin? From forum photos, it looks like a standard 1/2 inch blade might slip in.

In serious target guns 2-3 thousandths is thought ideal. Four to six is typical. Seven or more is loose. All my revolvers are 3-5 thousandths. You measure it with the cylinder pushed forward.
There's another measurement called endshake, You measure that with the cylinder pulled back, and subtract the gap measurement. Example: .006 pulled back, minus .004 pushed forward, equals .002 endshake. Endshake should be less than .007. My guns are all .003.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

Rick_Jorgenson

Great info bearcatter. I've heard those terms but was never sure how they were measured or what acceptable tolerances were.

Now, to look for some narrow feeler gauges and check a few Revolvers!  (Added to my list of things to get done.)

By checking while cleaning them regularly, this would be a good way to see if one was starting to get out of spec's from use or a change in ammo maybe affecting wear and tear. 

Early detection before failure.
Rick Jorgenson

bearcatter

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I've edited my first post. I goofed. I just checked my gun box and my gun gauges are standard 1/2 inch.

How much space is between the top strap and cylinder pin on a mini? Looking at forum photos it looks like a 1/2 inch wide blade might slip in.

Gauges that go thin enough, or don't skip some needed thicknesses, are a little harder to come by. Ace has a couple like mine. .0015 to .035 and only skip a few of the thickest.

I didn't pay it much attention, until my first Single-Six, bought new, was spitting to the sides. The gap was .013. Ruger re-barreled it and cleaned up the trigger as a bonus. It came back .004.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

grayelky

I have a Single Six I bought in 1971. There is no way of estimating how many thousands of rounds have been fired through it. I will have to check some measurements! The good news is, I have not noticed a difference in it hitting where I?m pointing. Not yet, anyway. Thanks for posting this.
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

bearcatter

From what I've read, .22 LR has little or no effect on the gaps, and .22 WMR would probably have minimal wear over time. It's good to check on a new revolver, just to be sure everything is as it should be. I would imagine that with NAA's use of CNC machining, and good QC, all their gaps are good and within a thousandth of each other. I was just curious as to what their standard gap is.
When I returned my .013 Single-Six, Ruger told me their QC allowed gaps as large as .010.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport