Introducing: The Sentinel

Started by naaadmin, January-22-24 09:01

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naaadmin

Introducing the Sentinel: Our Newest Addition to the NAA catalog.

Born from the body of the PUG and the functionality of the Sidewinder, this compact powerhouse is guaranteed to become your newest EDC.

With both White Dot and Tritium Sights available, there will be something for everyone.

Available to ship Summer 2024.

RogueTS1

Looks interesting. What would the specs on this model be?
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

MR_22

Whoa, nice! Wish I was in Vegas this week to check to check it out!

OV-1D

  Do all cylinders clear for use of speed loader ? How about the kick out shaft for spent cartridges ? Both sizes included , Magnum and Long Rifle cylinders . Inquiring minds need to know .  Approximate price would also be nice ?  ;) ;)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Rick_Jorgenson

Quote from: OV-1D on January-22-24 10:01
  Do all cylinders clear for use of speed loader ? How about the kick out shaft for spent cartridges ? Both sizes included , Magnum and Long Rifle cylinders . Inquiring minds need to know .  Approximate price would also be nice ?  ;) ;)
It looks like the blast shield partially covers one chamber like the current Sidewinder so, I doubt you can load with a speed loader or dump all spent cartridges without turning the cylinder to get the last one out.

This is just speculation on my part from looking at the photo. JMHO

But, I do like the look of it and will definitely be looking to buy one (or more)  ;)

"I need it to build Holsters with!!" Yeah, thats why  ;)
Rick Jorgenson

bearcatter

#5
I am so underwhelmed ......... a different Sidewinder that still opens on the wrong side. JMHO. When do we get to see the  spectacular new model?

At least I have the excitement of Two SRs. Bought another yesterday. Clerk wondering if I'll do it a third Sunday ....
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

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Uncle_Lee

Looks like there is a big knob to release the cylinder.
That is good because I don't have enough grip in one finger and the thumb to pull the release on the Sidewinder.
Maybe I can get a grip on a big knob.


:) On the Sidewinder, I don't have to worry about a fast reload, I can't load it the first time. :)
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LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

Uncle_Lee

I have a question for ADMIN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Will forum members be offered "Early Bird" specials??
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

Snooper

Quote from: bearcatter on January-22-24 14:01
I am so underwhelmed ......... a different Sidewinder that still opens on the wrong side. JMHO. When do we get to see the  spectacular new model?

Me too.  :'(

bearcatter

High Standard had a .22 LR Sentinel revolver, nine shots. I had two over the years.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

LHB

I don't know if this is true or not, but as far as the cylinder opening on the wrong side, I read once that Sam Colt was a lefty, and designed his guns for his use, and almost everyone continued in his path, although the cylinder on a S&W turns the wrong direction.   Also read that back when double actions were first being developed in this country, and Colt's double actions were based on the SAA style frame, Winchester was unhappy about Colt getting into the long gun business with the Burgess designs, that Winchester sent a double action revolver, with a swing out cylinder, on the right side, to get Colt's opinion about the design, and Colt quickly dropped out of the long gun business and Winchester never entered the handgun business.

OLD and GRUMPY

Want to know more. 2 cylinders? Early ordering? Barrel length? 
Death before Decaf !!!!!

bearcatter

Quote from: LHB on January-23-24 01:01
I don't know if this is true or not, but as far as the cylinder opening on the wrong side, I read once that Sam Colt was a lefty, and designed his guns for his use, and almost everyone continued in his path, although the cylinder on a S&W turns the wrong direction.   Also read that back when double actions were first being developed in this country, and Colt's double actions were based on the SAA style frame, Winchester was unhappy about Colt getting into the long gun business with the Burgess designs, that Winchester sent a double action revolver, with a swing out cylinder, on the right side, to get Colt's opinion about the design, and Colt quickly dropped out of the long gun business and Winchester never entered the handgun business.

It just makes sense that the grip should stay in your shootin' hand when the cylinder is swung out. Opening to the right is fine for a lefty. Maybe NAA has some left handed engineers? ...  ::)
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

Wumbey Goomba

#13
This thinking has perplexed me before.

Uncle_Lee

I would think that you would use the hand that got the job done the best.

With this new model, there is not  going to be a fast reload because a speedloader cannot be used. It is going to be switched back and forth during the reload so it shouldn't matter which side it opens from.

If you need a fast reload, carry two or three minis. Most of the time I have two and sometimes I carry three, a Pug and two Black Widows.
With the invasion forces starting to come into backwoods areas. I just dropped a 9mm under my seat in the car. Wifie does all the driving so I am free to keep the invasion troops at bay.

Which brings to question:
Which will be hit first?
The grid?
Some main artery bridge?
A large mall?
A military base?
A large church?

OK,OK, I drifted slightly.
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

OLD and GRUMPY

#15
Looking at the picture the cylinder will not clear the blast plate for a speed loader?  Too soon for this talk but it looks like a little dremmel work would fix that :o?  Think there is enough time before they ship to address this in the factory.
Death before Decaf !!!!!

Canoeal

#16
Quote from: Snooper on January-22-24 14:01
Quote from: bearcatter on January-22-24 14:01
I am so underwhelmed ......... a different Sidewinder that still opens on the wrong side. JMHO. When do we get to see the  spectacular new model?

Me too.  :'(

A third...Could have easily done that with a BW...with Trits... :(
"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

heyjoe

Quote from: Wumbey Goomba on January-23-24 12:01
This thinking has perplexed me before.
A lefty wears a ball glove on his right hand and a righty
the opposite. I know what your thinking, throwing hand.
But to catch a ball flying right at you (face, nards).
Don?t you want your most coordinated hand defending those?

So using this analogy. The cylinder opening right. A right handed
person would use their most coordinated hand to open and
load, in the always stated panic-adrenaline scenario. So could it
be true, that righties have adapted to a truly lefty design, because
that?s just the most common way it has been made.

Now, how about a bait caster fishing rig. In modern times they have
gotten more prevalent to reel on the left. But not that long ago,
the most common, reeled on the right. Most righty?s I saw would cast with
their right hand and then switch to put the pole in their left so they
could reel with their right.

I shoot a recurve bow. This is another source of confusion. If it?s not
obvious I am lefty. So I hold the bow with my left hand and draw with
my right. So does mean I shoot lefty or righty. I mean, I hold with my
left but I shoot(throw) with my right.

The rules that determine what hand you are, give a man some mixed signals.


it takes more dexterity to reload the round then to hold open the cylinder. with a revolver  if you are right handed and it opens to the left, you use your right hand to open the cylinder catch then your left hand to push and hold the cylinder open. then you either load the rounds or use a speed loader with your right hand, both of which take dexderity.
on a mini sidewinder you need two hands in operation for everything.
It's too bad that our friends cant be here with us today

bill_deshivs

A fast reload with ANY mini revolver is a joke.

bearcatter

I guess all the New Product excitement is over ......

"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

5_shooter

I had high hopes for a .22 Guardian. But I do understand. There's only so much you can do with a mini.

Kublah

Pardon me if this has been explained somewhere, but why does NAA make the cylinder pop out on the wrong side?

Also, can we have more pictures of the Sentinel?

Thank you

burncycle

#22
Interesting.  Aesthetics drives a lot of my purchasing decisions on these little guys. For instance, I love the squared off looks of the pug (even a longer version, for instance this black widow with a laser module that looks like a long pug.  Even if there wasn't a laser, and that was just metal, it's such a cool profile).  So I'll have to wait until I see different views of this one before I decide.  I don't care one way or another about the swing out cylinder, but I'd love a break action version with pug lines (not easy to do and keep the overall look because of where the hinge needs to be). I'd be all over it, like in for several.







... and of course I always look for a NAA bicycle rifle in .22LR or .22 magnum (fingers crossed every shot show, but to no avail...)



bearcatter

You've been here 12 years and only done 80 posts (.019 posts a day) ?

I thought you were a new guy ....  :)
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

burncycle

Quote from: bearcatter on January-24-24 23:01
You've been here 12 years and only done 80 posts (.019 posts a day) ?

I thought you were a new guy ....  :)


I come out of the woodwork every few fortnights to mention I wish there was an NAA rifle  :o ;D

OLD and GRUMPY

On that rifle use a light weight lined  barrel like the Henry AR7. Find a good gun smith and talk about it.
Death before Decaf !!!!!

Armybrat

Quote from: burncycle on January-25-24 01:01
Quote from: bearcatter on January-24-24 23:01
You've been  here 12 years and only done 80 posts (.019 posts a day) ?

I thought you were a new guy ....  :)


I come out of the woodwork every few fortnights to mention I wish there was an NAA rifle  :o ;D

I am right behind you with the profile stats.
But I will say that NAA rifle in your picture could double as a handy walking stick (or cane).

OV-1D

Quote from: heyjoe on January-24-24 11:01
Quote from: Wumbey Goomba on January-23-24 12:01
This thinking has perplexed me before.
A lefty wears a ball glove on his right hand and a righty
the opposite. I know what your thinking, throwing hand.
But to catch a ball flying right at you (face, nards).
Don?t you want your most coordinated hand defending those?

So using this analogy. The cylinder opening right. A right handed
person would use their most coordinated hand to open and
load, in the always stated panic-adrenaline scenario. So could it
be true, that righties have adapted to a truly lefty design, because
that?s just the most common way it has been made.

Now, how about a bait caster fishing rig. In modern times they have
gotten more prevalent to reel on the left. But not that long ago,
the most common, reeled on the right. Most righty?s I saw would cast with
their right hand and then switch to put the pole in their left so they
could reel with their right.

I shoot a recurve bow. This is another source of confusion. If it?s not
obvious I am lefty. So I hold the bow with my left hand and draw with
my right. So does mean I shoot lefty or righty. I mean, I hold with my
left but I shoot(throw) with my right.

The rules that determine what hand you are, give a man some mixed signals.


it takes more dexterity to reload the round then to hold open the cylinder. with a revolver  if you are right handed and it opens to the left, you use your right hand to open the cylinder catch then your left hand to push and hold the cylinder open. then you either load the rounds or use a speed loader with your right hand, both of which take dexderity.
on a mini sidewinder you need two hands in operation for everything.




   I agree HeyJoe but another feature is good for selling purposes . Its just silly to have a feature thats only half done . The darndest thing is it can be easierly accomplished with a little tweek here and there ro the crane area .  ::)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

linux_author

Quote from: Rick_Jorgenson on January-22-24 10:01
It looks like the blast shield partially covers one chamber like the current Sidewinder so, I doubt you can load with a speed loader or dump all spent cartridges without turning the cylinder to get the last one out.

i did some judicious filing on my Sidewinder, which now opens with just enough clearance to eject spent shells

OV-1D

  That would work also Linux myself I figured a way for the crane to tilt out slightly to accommodate a speed loader . I sent kinda a blueprint to NAA and that was all that came out of that .  ??? ??? 
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

TruthTellers

Not the most exciting reveal, but an improvement over the current awful sights the Sidewinder has. I assume the Ranger will get similar upgrades in the future too.

I still would like to see a mini double action revolver in .22 and .32 in the future. I've seen others wanting a single action mini in .25 or .32, point is a lot of people have faith in North American Arms ability to make a quality product and we'd like something that's new, a totally new design. NAA doesn't seem sure what it is that people want next. When I speculated about a .22 double action the size of an old M frame S&W Ladysmith or H&R Young America, I did not see one person who said they wouldn't be interested.

I'm telling everyone at NAA, you bring to market a .22 LR double action half the size of a J frame, use aluminum for the frame, and it'll be a license to print money.

OV-1D

  If NAA was to offer a double action 22 I believe I'd have to sell my first borne AGAIN and maybe my second borne also to afford it . Prices would have to go thru the roof honestly speaking . Early century mini 22's-32's double actions didn't have such a good track record in parts failing regularly . .............................. Never mind my first borne I was reminded that one is already long gone .  ;) ;) ;) ;)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

TruthTellers

Quote from: OV-1D on January-27-24 08:01
  If NAA was to offer a double action 22 I believe I'd have to sell my first borne AGAIN and maybe my second borne also to afford it . Prices would have to go thru the roof honestly speaking . Early century mini 22's-32's double actions didn't have such a good track record in parts failing regularly . .............................. Never mind my first borne I was reminded that one is already long gone .  ;) ;) ;) ;)
Blame the designs, not the size. IDK much about the old Ladysmith's that S&W made, but the H&R's have a poor cylinder pin retention system and the Rossi Princess revolvers were made of pot metal. If NAA has been making mini revolvers for 30 years, they are probably the only ones who could make a mini double action work and also be be the best mini double actions ever.

copfish

Quote from: TruthTellers on January-27-24 16:01
Blame the designs, not the size. IDK much about the old Ladysmith's that S&W made, but the H&R's have a poor cylinder pin retention system and the Rossi Princess revolvers were made of pot metal. If NAA has been making mini revolvers for 30 years, they are probably the only ones who could make a mini double action work and also be be the best mini double actions ever.
I'd be in line to get a D/A NAA! I'm a fan of quality and functionality. I do love my BUG, would be even better if I had a NAA D/A. The Astra was cool, but the build/finish was crap. 
Retired lawdog and wildland  firefighter.

Kublah