Guardian .32 kicking last round in every magazine

[wb0625]

I have a new Guardian and all four magazines kick both the last rounds at once. It also stovepiped the second to last round one time. I could barely get through a box of 50. What can I do to make it stop?

[RogueTS1]

Sounds like the magazine may be bad or need some sort of adjustment. These pistols are designed to stove pipe the last round fired as there is not ejector but if the pistol is double feeding or stove piping the second to the last round then something is off.

[wb0625]

Sounds like the magazine may be bad or need some sort of adjustment. These pistols are designed to stove pipe the last round fired as there is not ejector but if the pistol is double feeding or stove piping the second to the last round then something is off.

I might not have been clear enough: when firing the second to last round, it ejects both the empty case and the last live round from the magazine at the same time. It's somehow kicking two rounds out at once, and it does it with every magazine

[bearcatter]

Sounds like the magazine may be bad or need some sort of adjustment. These pistols are designed to stove pipe the last round fired as there is not ejector but if the pistol is double feeding or stove piping the second to the last round then something is off.

OP says it's doing it with all four magazines he has. So it's the gun itself, or the ammo. I've had two Guardian 32s for over two years, so I'm well aware of how they work. Mine only do the last round stovepipe maybe a fourth of the time. If I think to tilt the gun to the right it ejects okay.

Ejecting the next to last fired round and the unfired last together is weird. Seems they would jam up in the port and not go anywhere.

Don't think it's rimlock. The front round would drag the last one out behind it and probably wouldn't be able to chamber. I've never had rimlock, always using FMJ. There isn't enough room for it to happen. Hollowpoints are a little shorter and there is a slight chance of rimlock then if you don't load the mag with extra care.

If you're shooting HP, try FMJ. If that doesn't fix, I think you need to give NAA a call.

[Wumbey Goomba]

I?ll start by saying I?m no expert, that said.
I would try different brands and types of ammo. Also pay very
close attention to every round loaded into magazine.
It sounds like rim lock to me. I say this based on my thinking,
you stated problem was with four different magazines. And it sounds
like you used one brand of ammo. If I?m wrong about this my bad.
Just saying I would try these suggestions before deciding it?s the gun
and sending in for work.

[dinooch]

I have to agree with ammo selection. My Guardian hates WW white box flat points and isn't the best with Fiocci fmj. Aguila, Federal, Remington fmj feed great with no issues. I have never had a bobble with Critical Defense either and they are as long as fmj so I don't worry about rim lock. Mine also likes silvertips and hydrashocks. My P32 is an fmj gun as far as I'm concerned and it eats all kinds of it. Critical Defense works perfectly as well but shorter hp's can be an issue.

[unclenunzie]

I've owned my Guardian 32 ACP since I bought it new in 2011, and have over 3500 rounds through it.  It is a peculiar little pistol that does not tolerate less than a firm grip, and especially with the live round ejection problems.  It's not the magazines - you have tried four of them.  My advice is get some lighter weight projectiles - either JHP at typical 60-65 grains or 71 grains in FMJ as made my American manufacturers. 

What is happening (without watching high-speed film of your pistol's firing cycle in slow motion) is that the violence of blowback firing action is causing excessive vertical rotation - muzzle flip - which during the feed cycle of that final round is letting it loose before the slide can drive that round into the chamber.  The inertia of the projectile combined with the violence of action is what does it.

You can test this using your current ammunition (which you should name here in this thread) by wrapping grip tape (hocky tape is cheap) around the grip to give your hand a lot more surface area to grasp and hold.  The more control you have, the less likely this problem will happen. 

I seem to get the best results with mine with silvertips (when they were still made) and PMC JHP.  Don't run more than a box of ammo during a session, keep it clean and lubed, and hang on tight.

[OV-1D]

Now thats some real knowledgeable hands on information . Thanks unclenunzie . It happens in other calibers as well with these over the top heavy loads but those are pretty much feeding problems . 

[Uncle_Lee]

By doggies unclenunzie,
Knowledge in those words is what we have needed.
Even I understood what you meant when you said it.

[naaadmin]

Hi there!

I would suggest calling customer service and seeing about getting it sent in for repair. We don't want you to be having issues like that.

801-374-9990

Rachel

[OLD and GRUMPY]

Did not know how TINY .32 Guardian is. Found one in the shop today. Little scratched up. I have big hands.How does it stack up to .25acp?



$225. ?