How to bring life back to NAA forum?

[PocketMagnum]

Topic.

[bearcatter]

Restore the categories "Politics And Religion", and "Off Topic". They were eliminated arbitrarily in January. NAA decided to keep the forum "product oriented". We lost more than a few active members.

Politics especially is informative, especially with a new Administration coming in, making changes that gun owners need to know.

With our pitiful post count, I can cover a month's worth of posts in 15 minutes. So I only log in once in a great while now. Just coincidental I was here to see your post. I've read and written a few posts in the last couple of days. Now I'll go back to  lurking. once a month or two.  Eventually I'll give up too.

[PocketMagnum]

You a Smith, Ruger, or Kimber owner? They have forums + those topics. May consider joining there. Wish NAA had these sections too.

[Uncle_Lee]

You a Smith, Ruger, or Kimber owner? They have forums + those topics. May consider joining there. Wish NAA had these sections too.

Sure, those forums are out there, but our family (that is what they were) is not there.
Yes, we were a family. Like families, we argued and disagreed like all families.
We were in the wrong for letting feelings get out of hand. Well it wasn't just us. Sandy encouraged the close feelings by treating us like family.
But now Sandy is gone and the forum is run by people with different goals for the future.
There are/will be those who were here but in their heart were not family. They will be happy here now.

If you are going to stay, stay.
If you are going to leave, leave.
You do your self no good by lurking and posting now and then to say you miss the old days. They are gone and you only open the wound by coming back now and then.   

[OV-1D]

 Isn't that the truth . Go Unc many of todays crowd has come the wanna , could a ,should a feeling none of us older timers have , we just do and go with the flow . Want it buy it , need it get it without criticizing others ofcourse . The forum is what it is and I of all people have found absolutely nothing wrong with it , I've posted unwanted topic 's and they still were posted and left . Not going to hear any whines from me ,UNLESS PERSONAL STUFF .        

[Anvil]

I think we should leave the site pure and simple for true NAA enthusiasts exclusively. We might be a small minority in the gun world but that's okay, those here and active members are devoted to what is well represented, top quality firearms, consealabilty and  afforability. The bigger caliber guns are made to kill and the NAA's are made to personally defend.

[Uncle_Lee]

Right.
And I could 100% happy here if all my thoughts, wishes, and desires were based on North American Arms. But they are not.
The way the forum was touched all those needs. Now it does not. But I will be here because it is necessary. I have too many "family" here. To see them post tells me that they are still above ground and I like that.
There are some that I worry about if they don't post for awhile like Zorba (but I check other websites to check on
 him.). I was worried about the bear but posted and I know he is alive.
There are others that I am happy to not see them post.

[RogueTS1]

While the forum may still go on .............. it is not nearly the same as it used to be nor as active. It is what it is though. We come here for the people that have been here over the years and will likely continue to do so as long as things do not get too Lefty.

[OLD and GRUMPY]

Bring back P&R and Off Topic. --- Over the years there have been several mass loses of members. We had a lot of freedom and drove a bunch away. I think P&R got cut in part because of the bickering. It's not all NAAs fault. User melt downs didn't help. I melted down a few times. I stayed away from P&R most of the time. My nerves could not take much of it.

[Anvil]

Participation is the key to life here on this forum! Check in once a day, tell us what you think, create new thoughts and subjects and make some replies to share your wisdom. 
This is a unique site soley for the brotherhood of NAA enthusiasts. 
Help keep it going and keep it strong!

[OLD and GRUMPY]

I joined the Shotgun Forum 10 years ago. I post off and on but not much last year. It has been about 9 months of not checking in. Today I got a Email from them saying my posts have had 245 replies and they value my input. I will check back in later to see what I said  . --  If NAA wants to bring life back to our forum they could mass Email all members who have not canceled there accounts. Just say we miss you. Short and sweet. Might help.

[PeeShooter]

OK. I don't have a killer number of posts, but when "off topic' was around, it was one of my favorite reads.  I vote yes to bring back off topic and loosen up with the moderation.  Off topic was a good informational source that kept people looking and it was fun.

[Texduk3]

I check in once a week, sometimes I post.
I have not added  NAA items in quite some time.
...................MAGA !>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Bigbird48]

can't remember last time I posted ,I do take a look every now an then to see if anything is going , but mostly not so I stay quite

[RogueTS1]

Still check in same as used to but do not reply near as much. What can be done about it? If the Admins wish to keep it as is, cannot think of much that will change.

[Anvil]

Let's keep the site in general for the 22 rimfire and not confine it to just NAA. I think we have done that and should keep it that way.  

[motter]

I've never been a very active member.  While I am a outdoors, hunting, archery, shooting enthusiast, the NAA firearms are only a very small part of all that. I spent more time here researching NAA revolvers and what they were all about.   I bought an Sidewinder 2.5 inch barrel.  Enjoyed it for what is was--traded it way this AM.   I've very active on an outdoors forum, a couple of music forums, and couple of traditional archery forums, several specific firearms forums.  Just bought a new Marlin this AM--I'll be joining the Marlin forum shortly most likely. I like the forums I'm on that have an off topic area, but most also prohibit religion and politics.  Moderators come down heavy on violators.  I mostly go to the forums I do to engage with the topic, learn as I can, give what I can, and escape from the daily sewage spewed on TV, some internet forums, and social media.  I do appreciate everyone efforts to share what they know and the experience they bring to the forum.  I'll swing by every now and then to check out the goings on but as it is this forum is not my internet home, I've other places to go and visit and see the world, not enough time for it all....

[ChanceMcCall]

This is an interesting thread.

I am active in a number of forums because I am often seeking knowledge and information about a specific topic. Years ago I belonged to a BMW forum because I had bought a Z8, which I had to search out and buy half a country away. My local BMW dealership knew even less about the car than I did, and I didn't know nearly as much as I wanted. A few years ago, I joined a Mustang forum after buying my wife a Mustang convertible and discovered a problem with the rear windows and the drop top the dealer could not solve but the forum did.

I have joined numerous other forums and left them once the problem(s) was/were solved. However, I have also stayed on some forums long after the need for information has been solved. The question germane to this thread is "why" I remain on some forums and not others.

One thing I value in other forums and dislike about this one is the function that allows one to respond to the post of others through a variety of emojis. It allows one to encourage others and to discourage some of the more obnoxious keyboard commandos.

Another thing that keeps me coming back to some forums are the humor threads. Do I like or agree with all of the humor posts? No, but I more or less ignore the ones I don't like to access the ones that make me laugh.

Finally, some forums are unfriendly to newcomers or to those who don't follow all the rules exactly as written. For example, I put up a post here genuinely seeking valuable information, but it took almost a week for it to be posted because "the topic was controversial and needed to be considered". Now, the post was eventually put up and after a while, some began to comment cautiously. There are at least a dozen other forums I no longer post to, but lurk at because there is good information there but has moderators who take their jobs too seriously.

I value a NAA forum because too many other forums have members determined to make fun of "mouse guns" and their owners. I also value learning some things about the guns themselves as well as their performance in the field.

I do hope this forum attracts more members. I do mention this forum often in the real world in the hope that some of the people I respect will join this forum and add their knowledge to these threads.

[OV-1D]

Thank you for that response ChanceMcCall it certainly compliments the forum in general for sure . Hope you'll be a more posting member withpictures of just anything you would like us to see ,which is everything , Ha. Gun pictures are sure our favorites but anything would do seeing a picture is worth a thousand words . Rachel is our moderator I believe and she is grand with letting anything go , squeaky clean though nothing outgareous of course , shes the tops as her predessor ,Jessica, was and we all miss her also . Shame we can't reward these gals for their abilities , hope NAA does at least ................................. PICTURES MY FREIND , PICTURES . OH and if I forgot to give a BIG WELCOME HERE IT IS .

[ChanceMcCall]

I think we should leave the site pure and simple for true NAA enthusiasts exclusively. We might be a small minority in the gun world but that's okay, those here and active members are devoted to what is well represented, top quality firearms, consealabilty and  afforability. The bigger caliber guns are made to kill and the NAA's are made to personally defend.

  My primary carry handgun is, and always has been, a .45ACP. I never thought of it as a way to kill, but rather as a way to stop someone from doing something harmful to me or others. No one other than a psychologically damaged person looks forward to killing another person, and if they did, the way they will feel afterwards will likely change that.

On the other hand, almost all of the early adapters to the Freedom Arms piece that morphed into the NAA piece were federal law enforcement agents with state and local LEOs who were in the more active roles coming soon afterwards. I was there for three separate incidents where these little guns were used successfully by DOJ agents to defend life. In all three situations, the perps ended up dying in a hospital.

I don't think it fair to declare that if one only carries a mouse gun they are more honorable than someone carrying a larger caliber gun.    Remember that Sam Giancana was killed with a .25 ACP as were many other mob victims.

[OV-1D]

 Chance I also carried a 45 acp for years on my side in a fanny pack fitted for my belt so I used it on my side carry . It started to hang heavy after so many years I switched to Freedom Arms belt styled flap and snap holster and my Ranger 1 fits just nicely with no show kinda looks like one of those Leatherman knife holders but not . I figure it will do the business at hand if and when needed , hope so because my knees won't let me run anymore ,Ha . Don't forget pictures make this forum turn ,later .  

[RogueTS1]

My primary carry handgun is, and always has been, a .45ACP. I never thought of it as a way to kill, but rather as a way to stop someone from doing something harmful to me or others. No one other than a psychologically damaged person looks forward to killing another person, and if they did, the way they will feel afterwards will likely change that.

Welcome Chance ................ We quite often, today being one of those times, carry a .45 acp 1911. Great choice in our opinion. Now we do not consider our self a "psychologically damaged person" but .......... we shy away from the legal theory of "shooting just to stop" someone/something. While we understand the jargon's purpose we do not care for the circumstances that have made it popular.

We all know the three sayings; "Shooting to wound", "Shooting to stop" and "Shooting to kill." The first, "Shooting to wound" is silly and dangerous. This is widely accepted by those that know something about self defense. Hence we can rule that one out. It is the other two that catch our attention. If we accept the premise that when someone is "Shooting to stop" that they are not "Shooting to wound" and are therefore targeting vital structures of the body aka lethal shots; then we must admit that in all reality one is "Shooting to kill." One may not be hoping aka "looking forward" to killing  said aggressor,  but one is definitely putting in the work to do so in said attempt to get them to stop their present behaviour. Therefore by deduction, one who is "Shooting to stop" is "Shooting to kill".

We understand not to say this if ever in court, but ........... surely it can be understood that if one feels justified in the use of "Deadly/Lethal Force", one is actually trying to kill one's opponent. It says it all in its name.

Anyway, good discussion and once again welcome to the Forum.

[MR_22]

I joined the NAA board in about 1999, shortly after I bought my first NAA, which was a combination Black Widow. The first weekend out after I bought it, I shot 500 rounds of .22LR and 50 rounds of .22-Magnum. I was in love.

The NAA board has changed over time, with software changes maybe 4 or 5 different times, but it was always the same group of people here talking about NAA's--and other guns and other topics.

At one point, I had about 36 NAA firearms, but I'm down on the count after I sold off most of my Talo collection because the prices went up so much.

I value both my 2nd Amendment Rights and my 1st Amendment Rights. While the 1st Amendment doesn't completely apply here, because this forum is owned and operated by NAA, I was extremely displeased when the range of self expression was severely limited when some sub-forums were removed.

Shortly thereafter, one of my threads was silently removed with no word from NAA board moderation. It was just gone, along with all of the responses. That was unacceptable to me. I immediately stopped participating here after over 25 years.

Call me petty, or whatever you like, but if I don't feel welcome and my comments are not wanted, I'm going to leave. And I did.