Ok now i'm sick

[cookieruffruff]

comcast news..they have approved a mosque on ground zero. they denied landmark status to a building near the world trade center, now it can be demolished to make room for an islamic MOSQUE  i smell obama  this is an out rage, what in the hell are they thinkin, now all ragheads/muslims are laughing at us.  sarah paylin and others are opposing it but to deaf ears. this makes me SICK anyone who is for the mosque should be keelhauled and sent out of the country to live with their precious ragheads.... give me a shotgun an a m-16  blow em all away. the disrespect to america is unbelivable the people who lost their lives or relatives,and ny firefighters too name a few.     WTfawu

[tranquilo]

I'm hoping there are enough people in NYC that understand what this means - who will put the fire to Mayor Bloomberg's feet and also to the rest of the liberal-leftist political class there to get this decision reversed.  If not, the "Big Apple" will send the wrong message to the islamists and history will repeat itself.

[chopprs]

I will bet it never comes to fruition. too many people will sabotage the construction......

   

   The newest news is about Charlie Rengal and maxine Pugface.....now instead of prosecuting them they want to abolish the ethics commitee?!?!?!?!WTF??? Am I dreaming or is all of this really happening??

[bud]

You can count on Nancy Peelosfart!

[heyjoe]

Bloomberg is behind it 100% along with the Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer and the local community board. Anyone who opposes it is labeled a bigot by the media and of course by the muslims pushing it. Memory is very short in the current US of A.  i hope Bloomberg does run for president just so he gets a nationwide whupping.

[wiseguy]

One thing about all this B.S. It will show all true Americans who is patriotic and who is not. The ones that are not MUST not be allowed to continue running this country, state or city. We need to stand up and wake up and see these people WILL ruin our way of life, worst of all they will ruin what our fathers and grandfathers fought and died for. I'm disgusted by these pieces of garbage, they should be kicked out of this country, they obviously dont have true Americans best intrest in mind. GET OUT!!!

[Uncle_Lee]

In the past they have put up a Mosque at the site of a great victory. This is the same.

   If Hitler had called the Nazi origination a religion, would we have handed him the Country on a platter?

   We are being invaded by a power bent on destroying our way of life and our country is being handed over to them.

   Jihad was declared on us years ago and they are at war with us. We may not be at war with them but they are at war with us. It is time for America to wake up and face that fact before we no longer have an America.  

   OK, it may be a religion, but it is a religion bent on world conquest. They will use our freedoms to destroy us. An exception to this freedom MUST be made in this case. Our Country depends on it.

[chopprs]

....with no disrespect intended Lee...BULL!!!!

   If this was fifty years ago the Imam would be arrested and deported!!!!!

   

   The Loser in Chief has made every attempt to disguise the US as a bunch of wimpy idiots in the face of the entire globe. He is right on the edge of being impeached for many, many reasons. The American peeps are SIK of his and Harry the child molester and Nancy Botox's ridiculous crap!!!

[tranquilo]

Would the Japanese try to build a memorial shrine in Pearl Harbor?  Not a chance!  If

   the Islamists knew we were serious about defeating them they would not be trying to

   build one in NYC either.

[bud]

Chopprs,   I Agree!!!

[Uncle_Lee]

I simply asked a question. Would we have handed over our country to Hitler if he had called it a religion? No we wouldn't have.

   Now everyone jump my case because choppers disagrees with the way I worded something.

   That is the way it normally happens when he disagrees with someone.

[cookieruffruff]

uncle lee,  go get a coffee, mornin paper, go into the john and you'll ferget this lol ya gotta watch how ya word stuff,ME TOO,lol  cookie keeps me in line   ruffruff  GOD BLESS AMERICA while we still have her .  the statue of liberty is cryin.  i understand the point yer tryin ta make, go fondle yer mini's  it'll hopefully get better

[bud]

Uncle Lee, I do not disagree with your question, or your post,I was only agreeing with Chopprs statement about Loser and Chief, and Harry , Nancy, and Imam being deported, arrested ETC.

[chopprs]

Lee, I am AGREEIN' with ya buddy! I am just furthering yer feeling moreso........have a coffee and a poo! You will feel better!

[Uncle_Lee]

On my fifth cup of coffee.

   On my first day of not smoking. Sorry if I am a turd.

   This is going to be hard.

   Been smoking daily since I was 4. That was 64 years ago. Ain't easy.

[cookieruffruff]

try the left hander's  make yer gloucoma better   lol   it'd make the cravin go down    ruffruff

[bud]

Uncle Lee,   I had to quit smoking after 50 years or so of doing it. I took one a day away, until I got down to one or two cigs. a day. Then I would make those last all day, taking a couple of puffs and then put it out. After a couple of weeks or so I winged myself off of that. That was around three years or so. I still miss them, and would probably kill for just one without somebody bugging me while I do it. I get winded from all of those years of smoking, and realize it was not worth it, but I was hooked!  I sure don't miss the price of paying for them though.  

   I see people smoking that I know for a fact they are on government welfare, food stamps etc. and they have the money to pay for it with tax payers money. I feel like I'm helping pay for their smokes, but I can't have one. Oh well, that's life, [OR DEATH] I guess.  

[chopprs]

......don't listen to cookie. The lefthanders make ya chug cheeseburgers like they are goin' outta style. Yer ass will be as wide as a couch! Wish you luck Lee. It is a hard task but well worth it...and you are not a turd!

[Uncle_Lee]

Thanks, Bud, been trying it that way since Jan and it don't work for me.  

   After being drunk for over 10 years I stopped one day at a time.

   That's what I am doing now with smoking. I ain't going to do it today. Tomorrow I will try not to.

   

   AND Cookie, Choppers is correct. Ever hear of the Munchies. They are real and will comsume you.

[chopprs]

.....I would rather smell like a fine single malt scotch than an old nasty ash tray any day!

[bud]

Uncle Lee,  I WAS going to tell you I only smoked after sex, and I was down to two packs a day, but I figured you wouldn't believe me.

[Uncle_Lee]

Heck Bud, I wouldn't have been smoking for the last 5 years if that was when I smoked.

[heyjoe]

update: not sure you guys get this news in other parts of country

   

   

   http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/11/22/2010-11-22_park51_developers_apply_for_5m_federal_grant_outraging_opponents_of_mosque_near_.html#ixzz1652AGkG6">http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/11/22/2010-11-22_park51_developers_apply_for_5m_federal_grant_outraging_opponents_of_mosque_near_.html#ixzz1652AGkG6

[westerly1965]

OMG just when you thought you wouldn't see anything else insane.....

[lohman446]

Its American muslims who are building it, the same as we have allowed Americans to build houses of worship in many places.  You may not agree with it but the concept that this is some "holy" or protected ground (note its not on ground zero itself)is absurd, there are strip joints and gambling parlors in the same block.

   

   It was Bush who reminded us after 9/11 that it was not all Muslims who attacked us.  Distinguish between your enemies and friends are you will find you do not have to make that distinction for long.

[ricart]

While Muslim is a religion, so what?  More wars, killing, and general chaos have started over religion than over land and women.  That said, the Muslims as a religion have made no major outcry over the actions of the terrorists.  I think I see what Uncle-Lee was attempting to say.  If a terrorist attacks under the guise of religion, he has a better chance that the liberal idiots in this country will go with it.    This country has not fought a war since WW2 that actually put this country in any real  danger.  I am very afraid the American people no longer know how to fight a real war and that will destroy us.

[Dinadan]

I do not think we can win a war if we

   are not willing to admit who we are at  

   war with. Saying that we are at war with

   a few misguided extremist Muslins is very

   politically correct, but just not true.  

   Witness the celebrations after 911.

   Just my opinion.

[ricart]

And for that Dinadan deserves an AMEN.  I say the Muslims don't want to fight for their land and only want to take over what the other countries have.  I trained for 11 weeks in the U.S. Army.  I was deemed combat ready and, at the tender age of 20, was ready to kick anyone or any countries backside that said different.  I trained 6 months to be a cop.  I was then put on the street and was considered a police officer.  These Muslims have been training for years and are still not ready.  As Gen Patton might say, these cowards don't want to fight.  Just want to take. Or maybe it's all for their religion. i got to stay off this thread, gets me on a soap box and wanting to kick some ass, which I am too old to do.

[grayelky]

Gentlemen, gentlemen, calm yourselves. You are going to let your blood pressure get so high you will give yourself a stroke.

   

   Now, take a deep breath and read carefully:

   I feel we should allow a Mosque, if the Muslims want to build one. Especially if it is just a community center to help everyone in the area. Right after they allow a Synagogue to be built in Mecca. After all, they do want us to be tolerant, so I feel it is only right they be tolerant also.

   

   However, until the Synagogue is built, I will have a verifiable alibi for where I was at the time the Mosque under construction had a little accidental fire. I'm sure it will be only a small fire, as the NY City FD will do their best to put it out quickly - just as soon as they can find that address.

[bud]

New Direction for any war: Send Service Vets over 60!

   

   I am 60 and the Armed Forces thinks I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 42 to join the military. They've got the whole thing ass-backwards. Instead of sending 18-year olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You shouldn't be able to join a military unit until you're at least 35.

   

   For starters: Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more than 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy.

   

   Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. 'My back hurts! I can't sleep, I'm tired and hungry' We are impatient and maybe letting us kill some asshole that desperately deserves it will make us feel better and shut us up for a while.

   

   An 18-year-old doesn't even like to get up before 10 a..m. Old guys always get up early to pee so what the hell. Besides, like I said, 'I'm tired and can't sleep and since I'm already up, I may as well be up killing some fanatical son-of-a-***.

   

   If captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser.

   

   Boot camp would be easier for old guys.. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we're used to soft food. We've also developed an appreciation for guns. We've been using them for years as an excuse to get out of the house, away from the screaming and yelling.

   

   They could lighten up on the obstacle course however. I've been in combat and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side, nor did I ever do any pushups after completing basic training.

   

   Actually, the running part is kind of a waste of energy, too. I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet.

   

   An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave, to start up a conversation with a pretty girl. He still hasn't figured out that a baseball cap has a brim to shade his eyes, not the back of his head...

   

   These are all great reasons to keep our kids at home to learn a little more about life before sending them off into harm's way..

   

   Let us old guys track down those dirty rotten coward terrorists. The last thing an enemy would want to see is a couple of million pissed off old farts with attitudes and automatic weapons who know that their best years are already behind them..

   

   ***How about recruiting Women over 50 ....in menopause!!! You think Men have attitudes !!! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my God!!!

   If nothing else, put them on border patrol.... They will have it secured the first night!

   

[Moderndayedison]

Let's let them build it.

   And see how long IT lasts.

   

   Might as well errect a big  

   sign on the roof that reads

   "Crash Plane Here."

   

   

   .

[grayelky]

Bud-

   You over looked one important point:

   

   Those of us over 40 have been married long enough that a DI yelling at us would be a relief, and not scare the Be-Jesus out of us. What good would boot camp be if we were not afraid of the DI yelling? Guess we could just skip boot camp. Only thing left would be to tell the Good Ole Boys there is no limit on terrorists, and the season opened yesterday!

[lohman446]

Yeh, because the right wing militias all ran to defend Ruby Ridge too huh?  There is a lot of posturing by the right wing, and its been going on for so long that most people see it as nothing more.  

   

   Muslim is not a religion - Islam is a religion.  Its not more barbaric than the teachings of the Old Testament, its that a few people still argue it should be followed to the letter.  This is not discussion of building it on ground zero but a few blocks away.  Unless your belief is that we should allow no mosques in the US I am curious how you argue against this one in particular?

[Uncle_Lee]

Islam is not JUST a religion. It is a way of life and law.

   Should we allow it here?

   Look at what is going on in Europe right now.

   

   No, I said look at what is going on in Europe-do a search and see what I am talking about then come back and finish reading what is here on the message board.

   

   They move in "peacefully" and take over.

   Fight it now or fight it later or be taken over by it. It is up to this generation to decide the future of this Country.

   Your great grandson could be be-headed for having a beer on prom night.

   Your great granddaughter could be stoned to death for falling in love with a Christian.

   Maybe we should not worry for the future generations. Let's just worry about today.

   America would have never existed if our forefathers felt that way.

   

   True, there are barbaric teachings in the Old Testament.

   Show me one place on Earth where they are practiced.

   I can show you where barbaric acts with Muslims are going on right now.

   Political correctness will be the death of our great Country.

   

   It is true that there is too much posturing by the right wing. I didn't see too much help at Waco either.

   In the end the right wing still believes the ballot box will work. They just have to let off some steam. The term "right wing" takes in a lot of good people. THEY ARE AMERICANS WHO LOVE AMERICA.

[newguy]

Ruby Ridge SHOULD be defended by anyone with any sense.  Unless you think it is OK for FBI snipers to kill women standing in the doorway of their homes...................

   

   And if you think that is OK, then obviously you believe in absolute Govt power, and one wonders what  you are doing here....................

   

   newguy