Refinish .22 Mag

[coinchop]

EL_lobo:

   Welcome to the forum.

   You discovered good.

[red14]

El_lobo,

    welcome to the forum, share what you know.  Tell us about yourself.

   

   Looks like a Red Wolf, beautiful.

[zippovarga]

El_lobo,

   

    Welcome aboard!

[oldbear]

You'll really like the little beast.  I swithed over to grips from a BW for better control, put it in a pocket holster (with 5 extra round) and carried the devil out of it.  With these, there is NO excuse for being unarmed!

[ozzy52]

Hi all new member here. would like some input on the best ammo to use in my 32naa.

[wyn]

This is what the owner's manual says for the .32 NAA it says the same thing for the acp also.

   

   Ammunition:

   The NAA .32 ACP Guardian is

   designed to utilize any commercially

   manufactured .32 ACP

   ammunition.

   The NAA .380 ACP Guardian is

   designed to utilize any commercially

   manufactured .380 ACP

   ammunition.

   Warning:

   Never use ammunition where

   the pressure levels exceed industry

   standards. Never use nonstandard

   or reloaded ammunition.

   

   Hope this helps.

[Uncle_Lee]

I just read this about the 32NAA on the NAA website:

   

   

   "The 32NAA is a new cartridge/firearm 'system' designed and developed by the partnership of North American Arms and Cor-Bon Ammunition.

   

   In essence, the cartridge is based on a 380 case, which is necked-down to hold a smaller 32 bullet. The benefit is a remarkable gain in ballistic performance"

   

   The only ammo that I see listed is made by Cor-Bon.

   

   If this is what Ozzy52 has then the .32acp will not work. Just the .32naa round.

[tom]

When I was at the convention, I fired the .380 and the .32 NAA for the first time.  I don't think they work for me as I had a bloody index finger.  I own a .32 A.C.P. and don't find it bad at all, so if I buy a large frame and shoot it, I will definitely be firing handloads, lighter bullets and lighter charge, probably just enough to function the action and get decent accuracy.  A lighter spring is probably part of the answer here for successful light loads.

   

   Manufacturers all say not to use handloads.  It's about liability.  Learn about a cartridge and a gun, and your handloads will not only just as safe, but they'll be tailored for your gun and for you.

[Uncle_Lee]

Yep Tom,

   I agree with you on the liability issue.

   Some shooters try to reload above the max.

   I have been "rolling my own" since the 60's and it has always been toward the lower end for the ones for paper and cans. Defense ammo I buy.

[tom]

I'm with you, Uncle lee.

   

   As loads get hotter, there is s smaller incremental gain in velocity by increasing the charge, but that's the part of the curve where the pressure rises the fastest.

   

   I do load my own defensive ammunition when that's the best.  But even here, I believe in prudence and caution.

[Uncle_Lee]

OH OH Tom,

   Check the liability issues on shooting someone with reloads. I think it might get nasty in court if they can convince the jury that you reloaded "killing round". A lot of folks on juries don't know squat about bullets, powder, and what it takes to kill something.

   Think of how they (anti-gunners) have convinced the general public that the AK-47 (the semiauto version) is a super killing machine when it is nothing more than a semiautomatic 30/30.

[tom]

Uncle lee,

   

   No one has ever been able to cite a case in which that was the deciding factor.  That idea was started by an Arab (Moslem?) gun writer who wished to stay in the good graces of the big ammo companies.

   

   But more to the point, I just can't live on my knees.  That's really the big reason that I live in Wyoming.  I'm not trying to be a hero or a tough guy.  But I just won't obey a thug, whether it's a street thug or a thug employed by the government.  And even if I die in prison, I'll die a free man.

[Uncle_Lee]

Good point.

   Good attitude. Stand by it.

[red14]

Just thought I'd say howdy.  HOWDY!  I haven't heard from you, so thought I'd touch base.  I'm expecting a new grandchild.  Baseball season is winding down.  Hope you, and your child bride, are well.  

   

   Don't know why you left, I hope it wasn't me.  I miss your stories.  Come back when you are ready, your friend, Red.

[nwg19]

Hey Red.....

   I tried to e-mail cj and mimie a couple time w/no response. Maybe they're out of town.  

   Hope all is well with them(and you!!!, congrats on the new grandchild!!!!)

   ......tom

[red14]

Thanks Tom, I think he bugged out a while.  When he comes back, the door is open.

   

   How are you doing?

[22mag]

CONGRATS ON YOU"RE GRANDCHILD

[red14]

Thank you, you are very kind.

[warty]

I don't miss him at all.

   

   Hey Red!  Been a while

[red14]

Yeah it has, glad you are back.

[gunfitrip]

I miss CJ quite a bit.  I considered him a friend and knowledgeable. In fact, he stimulated a lot of conversation and thought.  You could hate him or love him or both. You did not have to agree with him, but he would make you think.

[hazmatt]

Several months ago, I wrote my rules for CCW.  One of those rules was: "always carry a back-up."  I thought I'd relate the stories of how I became a follower of that custom.

   

        Several years ago, I went on a trip to the northern part of my state (California).  Having a California CCW permit, I was good to take either of the three handguns listed on my permit.  However, I was travelling to the most anti-gun part of this glorious and ruined state: the Bay Area.  Keep in mind, this was before San Francisco banned all guns, but in no way did I want to have my sidearm print no matter if I was legal to carry.  However, the Bay Area is not as nice as most people think.  I was taking a gun.

         

   I chose to carry my S&W model 38: an aluminium framed .38spl j-frame with the shrouded hammer.  At the time, I primarily carried it (in the waistband) with a set of Barami Hip-Grips and a Tyler T-grip adapter (look them up; they're fantastic).  With an un-tucked shirt, that combination was undetectable.  That trip passed uneventfully.  This was a good thing.

         

   The next week I decided to practice with that revolver.  I soon realized the cylinder was not rotating even though I had no trouble pulling the trigger.  The j-frame was returned to the factory and I was informed the revolver had developed a bad case of end-shake.  Several weeks later, my gun was returned repaired.

   

        - Keep in mind, this was a used gun that I received as a college-graduation gift.  It was a model 38; not the more common (and modern) designation of 438.  Is was an older gun and I couldn't readily buy a new one.  Who knew how many rounds the previous owner(s) put through it. This story is also why I say that while revolvers may be more "reliable," when they go down, they really go down. -

   

        But I cannot only pick on revolvers.  About three years after that, I was at my bi-annual CCW renewal class.  I always shoot a different gun to show competency with a variety of handguns.  That day, I decided to shoot my 1911.  That was also the day my extractor decided to go out-of-tune.  I shot just fine, but I had to clear several stoppages in the process.  A new extractor, as well as instruction on how to maintain them, quickly fixed the problem.

   

        Both of these malfunctions developed without prior warning.  Since then I've bought and carried current production j-frames and (what I consider to be) better designed autos.  However, I always carry a back-up whenever possible.  

   

   You never know when your perfectly reliable handgun will decide to go down.

[tranquilo]

Very informative, Hazmatt, - thanks!

[top dog]

Hazmatt,

   Good thing you found out the problems on the range and not on the street!!!!!

   Murphy's Law seems to be more active with firearms than other things mechanical (or so it would seem).

   Top Dog

[grayelky]

Back when I had to work for a living, I was assigned as a detective. To get into the jail to interview a suspect, you had to surrender your weapon (naturally). It would always amaze the jailer who did not know me when I handed him my issue Glock 23, then my non-issue 27, then my non-issue Charter Arms 44 Bulldog, then my NAA 22 LR, and finally my pocket knife. (They did not realize I carried Cross pens because they were metal and made a feasible dagger.) I was always asked how many guns I carried? My standard reply (then, as now): "Hopefully, at least one more than I need.)

[zippovarga]

[paulgl26]

[zippovarga]

hehe....I like that.

[Moderndayedison]

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   I have to admit, that is good.

[doc_stadig]

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   Here's a hybrid that really moves!

   very cool vehicle

   

   

   Doc

[hazmatt]

As I unpack from a recent out of town trip, I'm forced to consider one of my long-time companions: the S&W .38spl j-frame.

   

   Quite simply, they are my favorite handgun.  No other handgun epitomizes the role of a handgun; that of a conveniently carried, close-range defender.  I currently own four and while I may not always have one listed on my permit, I will always own one.

   

   My affair with the j-frame began when I was 21 and getting to apply for my CCW permit as a home business owner.  My stepfather gave me his old model 60 knowing I liked it and shot it a lot more than he did.  

   

   Later that was replaced with an aluminum model 38 (bodyguard).  I carried that gun the longest of any other of my j-frames.  It was an older model that was not rated for the common +p ammo.  After mechanical issues had revealed themselves at the range (posted elsewhere) and a return trip to the factory, I decided to start looking for a replacement.

   

   After I began my short career in law enforcement (probation), I was looking for a new j-frame to serve as back-up the the .40 I would be issued as well as a "pocket protector" I could easily carry between the court and my car.  Shortly before that, S&W dropped the prices on their aluminum models 642 (centennial) and 637 (standard).  I bought the stainless 642 and was quite satisfied.

   

   About a year later, my buddy in the local police department was looking to upgrade his model 442 (blued aluminum centennial) to a polymer Kahr.  He wanted his long-time back-up to go to a good home.  My buddy's 442 is now my 442.

   

   Bad things can happen to anyone at any time.  I've carried my j-frames as primary in place where I do not expect trouble or concealibility is the premium trait; and as a convenient back-up the other 90+ percent of the time to a larger auto.  From home to the downtown courts; quiet coastal towns to San Francisco to Las Vegas; to my nightstand (with a Remington 870 less than two feet away) the j-frame has been constant companion.

[red14]

Very interesting.  Autobiography of your love affair of self defense.  A decades long search for a perfect protection partner.

   

   It was a good story.

[hazmatt]

Thanks, Red!

   

   Now if only I could carry an 870 on my CCW permit . . .  That would be an interesting story.

[red14]

Ha, you and me both.

   

   Actually I just got my CCP and am trying to figure out what, and how to carry.  No small feat.  A pleasant but sobering decision.

[bud]

In Indiana we do not have to list which gun we want to carry on our ccw permit. Unless we buy a gun from a gun dealer, we do not have to register them. If I bought a hand gun from my neighbor, I do not have to register it.