Refinish .22 Mag

[Uncle_Lee]

Mosque is a symbol of the conquest, victory.

   

    http://biggovernment.com/pgeller/2010/05/18/the-911-mosques-peace-charade/">http://biggovernment.com/pgeller/2010/05/18/the-911-mosques-peace-charade/

[vegasgeorge]

I'm thinking that New Yorkers may have to resort to self help to prevent that mosque from being built.  I sure hope there are a few willing to do what it takes.

[naalover]

I pulled out my Dad's Ruger Single Six conversion and pitted it against my Black Widow a few days ago. The Ruger is the first handgun I ever shot, and this one is quite a few years older than me. It's still in superb shape though. I just finished cleaning and oiling it, so she's ready for another round. Here's a video of loading and unloading it and loading the Black Widow:

   

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0JOKyykYgs">

   

   

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0JOKyykYgs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0JOKyykYgs

[smendenhal]

I need a pocket holster for my NAA 22 mag mini revolver w/Laserlyte.  The only supplier I could find on the NAA web site was John R1150R and he is now out of business.  Can anyone help me?

[ostadoc]

Skip,

   

   Are you talking about Concealment Holster Solutions? John Losey?

[tr247]

His web-page is still up.

   TR247

[sleddogn]

yep he's still going, just bought 3 holsters from him in the last few weeks.

[wbaird7]

How about posting the link to his web site? I did a google on his name and received 2400 hits. Too much to wade through.

   

   Regards Bill )

[ulysses]

http://concealmentholstersolutions.com/">http://concealmentholstersolutions.com/

[skarrd]

or you could possibly modify an existing pocket holster.after i installed a pocket clip on my Kel Tec[380]the pocket holster seemed like a good project fo the mini mag.trced an outline,had it stitched at shoe repair place,an voila,pocket holster.you could slightly modify for lazer as well.

[skarrd]

well that didnt come out to well,sorry but you can get the idea.

[smendenhal]

When I searched for John's name and number (R1150R) on the message board he had posted that he was no longer in business as of last Sat.  

   

   I still need a pocket holster for my NAA 22 mag mini revolver w/Laserlyte - any help out there?  

   

   Skip

[tr247]

He is still in business go to his web page . He posted yesterday that he is in business.

   TR247

[naalover]

This is a great piece discussing the behavior of armed criminals in America:

   

   http://rkba.org/research/wright/armed-criminal.summary.html">http://rkba.org/research/wright/armed-criminal.summary.html

   

   I was interested in seeing how criminals obtain their weapons. The vast majority of criminals who use guns in crime obtain their weapons through unlawful means... Duh!  

   

   What's interesting is that unsecured weapons are stolen and used in crimes in pretty high numbers.

[naalover]

From: http://rkba.org/research/wright/armed-criminal.summary.html">http://rkba.org/research/wright/armed-criminal.summary.html

   

   "* Finally, the survey findings suggest that, at least for the serious adult felons included in this sample, certain commonly proposed gun-banning measures could have strongly undesirable consequences, resulting in the substitution of more powerful and more lethal firearms."

   

   There you have it... Banning guns only affects law abiding citizens and therefore must be looked upon with great suspicion!

[bobt]

It also said that alot of them carried for self protection, carried most of the time, practiced a lot, preferred quality firearms over cheap ones, were raised around firearms... |

[vegasgeorge]

In the early part of my legal career I took State assignments to represent serious offenders and lifers in state prison.  I did that work for several years.  So, I got to know what the serious criminal element was all about.  First let me tell you, they are not like you or me.  They don't think like we do, and they don't act like we do.  Most of them, and there are hundreds of thousands of them, have no sense of guilt, or shame, or human kindness.  On the outside (out of prison) we encounter these people all the time without knowing it.  Most of them don't plan their crimes at all.  They will not spend any time thinking about you before they attack.  They'll see you putting groceries in your car, or walking past an open alleyway and they jump all over you.  Believe me, there will be no time for discussion.  So what do you do?  Be alert to your surroundings, look strangers in the eye,  stay away from danger zones, and be armed with both a gun and the determination to use it.  That's the best you can do.

[tranquilo]

Watching TV shows such as "Cold Case Files" and "Forensic Files" has really opened my eyes to the importance of being aware and prepared.

[naalover]

There's a thread on the main NAA forum about the .17 HMR guns and why they didn't really work out. Some posts referred to headspace, and I had no clue what that was. I found a great article that describes what it is and why it's so important:

   

   http://www.rifleshootermag.com/gunsmithing/headspace_0612/#cont">http://www.rifleshootermag.com/gunsmithing/headspace_0612/#cont

   

   Enjoy!

[coopercdrkey]

Well, I may still not know exactly what it is, but I surely appreciate its importance!

   

   Thanks for the link....

[tencubed]

A good article but limited in scope.

   

   For an excellent explanation of headspace and the effects it can have on brass life and the accuracy/safety of a rifle I'd suggest reading P. O. Ackley's "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders" Volumes One and Two.

   

   This subject and a multitude of others are covered thoroughly.

   

   Mike

[lashlarue]

I bought a set for 223, as I have two carbines in that caliber.A Century built Galil and a Saiga 223.At a quick glance they look almost identical, they arent.My Galil had one trip back for repairs and I wanted to be dang sure the headspace was correct.My Galil checked out perfect.I will continue checking as I get more rounds down range.

[tencubed]

Not a bad idea to have a set of go/no-go gauges for rifles you shoot a lot.  Wildcats make this more of an issue and it's wise, IMO, to spend the few extra bucks and have gauges fit when you have the rifle made.  This is especially true if you are pushing the round for heavy loads.

   

   There is a massive amount of misunderstood facts and half-truths floating around most rifle ranges and in the media about head space and other chamber dimensions.  Some of the studies done in the 20's and 30' by the government armories are very interesting to read and study.  The Ackley book set I mentioned in my last post is a very good primer and they point out how much of the "new" stuff that comes out from time to time have been tried and passed over by wildcatters and experimenters years ago.  Some of the newer things, like the 223 military round we use, was proposed by military experimenters in the late 20's.  Their version was a .254 if I remember right.  This came from a number of tests made shooting pigs and goats that had been immobilized with various drugs.  The wound channels from this higher velocity round, when compared with the .308 and .457 calibers, was what caused the board to make the recommendation.  The Generals in charge, some of whom had cut their teeth on the old black powder big bores, went with the .308 round that had served in WWI which was, of course the 30-06.

   

   But I digress.

   

   Chamber dimensions are important, especially for the handloader.  If a person has a standard calibre rifle and shoots just factory loaded ammo made for the calibre he's shooting then it's not that big a deal.  The shooter should still be aware of tell tale messages the once fired brass is telling him in case the rifle has a problem.  I've seen, on three different occasions, people shooting 30-30 rounds thru a 32 WCF.  All three wondered why their rifle was not accurate.  Wrong size bullet rattling down the tube and if they had looked at the fired rounds it would have been apparent.  They had a lever action rifle and it had a big hole rather than the little hole of the 25-35 so they bought 30-30 ammo.  Lot's of folks don't know about the 32 WCF.  Then there is the 32-40 that will chamber in most 32 WCF rifles.  When this old long slow taper case is fired it fireforms to the 32 WCF chamber and comes out looking entirely different.  

   

   It's a good idea to know about chambers and look at spent brass even if you don't save it to reload.  Ever see what a 222 Remington case that's been fired in a 223 chamber looks like?  They will fit and they will usually fire but it's not a good idea.

   

   Just my opinions on all this based on what I've seen and learned from folks way smarter than me about the shooting game.

   

   Mike

[naalover]

Mike... Thank you very much for your additional posts. They are truly informative!

   

   Reggie

[bud]

Just talked to my daughter who lives in the Houston area in Texas. Last Thursday she was with her girl friend who had just parked her car in a parking lot. My daughter had just got out of the passenger  side of the car, and her girl friend was just getting ready to exit the drivers side, and a Mexican came up to the car from the rear, reached in the car and grabbed her girl friends purse. He ran to a car that was waiting for him, and they took off, making a clean quick get away! The girl ended up with a scraped up arm but nothing serious. They used a credit card for gas, tried to use her bank card, and got her phone and about $60.00 in cash plus other miner stuff.  

   Thank God they were not hurt! My daughter does not carry a gun, but her husband who was not with them does.  

   Problem is, if she did carry a gun, or her husband had been there and shot him, he would probably be in trouble.  

   She said they were in a good part of town, with a lot of people around, but that didn't make a difference. It can happen anywhere.

[tranquilo]

Yeah - all the legal problems and expenses from shooting someone in that situation would probably have been very high.

[naalover]

Bud, I'm very glad your daughter and her friend are OK.  

   

   Anyone brazen enough to do what that man did is someone most likely capable of doing far worse than they did that day.

   

   Your story is a great reminder to be situationally aware, even in "good" parts of town. A quick glance around the car before unlocking and exiting can give you a tactical edge.

   

   The same goes for walking to your car. I always look for people sitting in their cars in the parking lot. I pay particular attention to cars with tinted windows on the front doors because those are more difficult to see into.

[hazmatt]

I'm glad your daughter or her friend was not hurt.

   

   "Problem is, if she did carry a gun, or her husband had been there and shot him, he would probably be in trouble."

   

   - Most certainly.  A person is not morally or legally justified shooting another in defense of property.

[Uncle_Lee]

I think that thieves should be shot.

   Not all people disagree with that thought. A lot of states now have passed "The Castle Doctrine". It says that what is your's is your's and what is your neighbor's is your neighbor's and you can use deadly force to protect it.

   Texas, and Indiana, thank goodness, is one of them.

   I think in this case, if it would have been a clean shoot with no one else hurt, it would have been deemed a good shoot.

   I followed this case from the day it happened until the end of it.

   "The Castle Doctrine" also states that the one shot nor their family can sue over the shooting.

   

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy

   

   There are those that think that thieves should be able to take what ever they want and get a slap on the wrist. A lot of people disagree with that. Shoot them and they won't be bothering anyone else.

[bud]

Uncle Lee,  I remember the Joe Horn case! Since this was in Texas, maybe some one could of shot them. I never thought of that!!

   Your right, Indiana is a state that has a Castle Doctrine.  

   In my daughters situation though, Id be afraid an Innocent bystander could have been hurt,since there were people nearby.

   I hope the S.O.B. chokes on a taco! As a matter of fact, that was the only place [other than gas] they got to use a credit card, was a taco bell.

   

[Uncle_Lee]

Yes, we fought hard to get the Castle Doctrine here in Indiana.  

   Now it is here. We now need a good case to try it like Joe Horn's case.  

   Where they have the Castle Law, the crime will go down for sure.  

   Catch and release won't be in effect.  

   There will always be new thieves, just fewer old ones.  

   I am morally and legally justified to protect what is mine. (and if you want me to, protect what is yours)

[grayelky]

When a bad guy reaches for the purse, who is to say his next move would not be for the young lady. In Georgia, the "decision maker" is fear of one's life or that of another. The lady standing outside the car could have been easily justified in shooting the worthless piece of used bull feed, IF she felt the driver was in danger of receiving serious bodily injury or of being killed. Bottom line is, you must know the rules, and what the rule book says. You do not have to be a victim - at least not in Georgia.

   

   Would it have been worth shooting him over $60.00? It would not have been over $60.00. It would have been the fact she was in fear of her life, which is the fallacy the doctrine of shoot to kill. Soldiers may shoot to kill. Counter-snipers may shoot to kill. We as individuals shoot to stay alive.

[Uncle_Lee]

I would shoot him over $60.00 if he was stealing it.

[bama22]

el balistico gelatino

[Uncle_Lee]

I speaky only Americaneese.