Double Action Mini?

Started by RL, March-09-14 08:03

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RL

First time post.  Owner of 5 NAA's (22LR 1 1/8 & 1 5/8, 22 Mag 1 1/8, Guardian 32 & 380).  Absolutely love all of them.  Does anyone know whether NAA has plans on producing a double action mini in either 22LR or 22 Mag?  The smallest and lightest modern 22LR revolver is the S&W Airlite series.  I would gladly pay 3 to 4 times the going rate of a single action Mini.

SteveZ-FL

The design considerations of such a DA could be it's downfall.  There would have to be a trigger guard, probably also a manual safety, the advance mechanism would take more space, and other such issues.  By the time it's done it could end up the size of those old Rohm .22 Short revolvers.  it would still be small, but.....
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OV-1D

  Theres no good reason not to go double action in a mini , heres an example from early 1900's with folding trigger . Kolb's also are double action but have a great failure rate and that was with black powder shells . Seem to be a very delicate construction to have double action in miniature .  :)
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Goatpacker

I just wish they would make more of the top one again.

JES14352

I would buy one if they kept it small.
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grayelky

It is highly unlikely NAA will ever, or at least in the some-what near future, produce a double action revolver. First, they are several months, maybe even still a year, behind demand in production. Second, Sandy has mentioned time and time again the small, single action, last ditch self-defense revolver is their market niche, and he intends to continue to dominate that segment. It would be expensive to develop a small, reliable double action revolver that could be produced in sufficient quantity to meet potential demand, and at a price that will be profitable and competitive.

The S&W .22 mag is a great little gun. It's light, reliable and packs .22 mag, 7 shot power, in an 10 or 11 oz package. You are also asking David to take on Golaith, using Golaith's choice of weapons. While David did in fact slay Golaith, he did it with a much smaller, more compact weapon of his choosing. I strongly suspect the majority on this forum will prefer the quality and workmanship of NAAs over S&W. When it comes to the whole country, we are in the minority. The majority of the gun buying public still believes S&W to be the company they were in the 50s and 60s or even the 70s. To try and produce a double action revolver small enough to meet our desires would turn into an extremely expensive, losing uphill battle.
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Goatpacker

NAA needs to focus on the quality and workmanship of the products they have right now first. If not then we will be saying that the general public thinks NAA is the same company they were in the 80's, 90's and 00's. They have some good products on their menu right now, just need to keep in line with the idea that has got them this far. Maybe slow down a bit on new products and concentrate on precision.

RL

Quote from: theysayimnotme on March-09-14 19:03
http://naaminis.com/smf/index.php?topic=4525.0

Yup.  I am aware of the CA2000.  That is exactly the size and function I am referring to - minus the folding trigger.  A traditional trigger guard would be better.  Less fumbling.

The beauty of DA revolvers is that it is just a pull of the trigger to go bang.  Whereas the single actions require that extra step of cocking back the hammer.  Not a huge challenge in a larger gun but difficult in a mini for someone with larger hands.  If the street can sell the S&W Airlite 22LR  & 22 Mag for over $600 a piece, I would dare say that a 5 shot DA Mini could fetch the same or more.

G50AE

How about a .32ACP Glock?  8)

SteveZ-FL

One of the problems with firing a very small DA is keeping the handgun stable while firing.  Trigger pull of a DA (especially with a stiff spring) tends to take the handgun off-target.  With very small handguns the effect is more dramatic.  SAs may take a smidgeon more effort, but are a lot easier to keep on target.
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redhawk4

Quote from: SteveZ-FL on March-10-14 10:03
One of the problems with firing a very small DA is keeping the handgun stable while firing.  Trigger pull of a DA (especially with a stiff spring) tends to take the handgun off-target.  With very small handguns the effect is more dramatic.  SAs may take a smidgeon more effort, but are a lot easier to keep on target.

I tend agree, on such a small revolver I can see some of the benefits of double action being outweighed by the problems of holding the gun still while firing double action. At contact range there would  be an advantage and the ability to fire with one  hand, if grappling with someone etc. would be there.
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