Loading mini-revolver

Started by cmooney813, May-03-14 13:05

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cmooney813

The instructions are to first put the hammer in half cocked position in order to remove the cylinder.  Then after loading and reinserting the cylinder, it remains half cocked.  So one just leaves it in half cocked position until it is fired?

postalman

The safest thing to do is put the hammer in the safety notch between cylinders until you're ready to "light one off".
"Let the gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."- Thomas Jefferson

OV-1D

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Quote from: cmooney813 on May-03-14 13:05
The instructions are to first put the hammer in half cocked position in order to remove the cylinder.  Then after loading and reinserting the cylinder, it remains half cocked.  So one just leaves it in half cocked position until it is fired?


  Welcome to the bunch CM . My advise is to play with this piece UNLOADED till you know every aspect of any gun till you can almost rebuild it with your eyes closed , learn what does what and when it does it till you can teach someone else then and only then should anybody use live ammunition when going to shoot . Mistakes cause injury or death with any weapon . Answer to your question is yes like Postalman said but please learn all you can learn on your own it's the best teacher . So many people are buying firearms these days that I feel concern for allot of them because live fire travels a long way with no concern whats in it's way . Sorry for the lecture if it's not your case .  ::)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Dinadan

Quote from: cmooney813 on May-03-14 13:05
The instructions are to first put the hammer in half cocked position in order to remove the cylinder.  Then after loading and reinserting the cylinder, it remains half cocked.  So one just leaves it in half cocked position until it is fired?
Cmooney813 - No, you should not leave the Mini in the half-cock position. As Postalman said, it is better to put the hammer in a safety notch. OVID makes a good point about thoroughly familiarizing yourself with the Mini's operation before you start loading it.

Okay, you have the cylinder back in the Mini, with the hammer still at half-cock. Now pull the hammer back just a little, about one fourth of an inch, until you can rotate the cylinder. Rotate the cylinder until a safety notch is under the hammer. Keeping careful control of the hammer, pull the trigger and gently lower the hammer into the safety notch. I strongly suggest practicing that with an unloaded gun.

Oh yes, welcome to this forum!

blue_heron

To add to OV-1D's advice, once you are familiar with it unloaded, you may want to practice loading and unloading with A-Zoom Rimfire Training rounds.

Here is a link to them: http://www.azoomsnapcaps.com/home/training-rounds.php

It should be stated that you should never dry fire any rimfire. The A-Zooms in the above are not snap caps. You may use fired empty cases a few times each for dry fire practice.


JES14352

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STUBBORN AS A MISSOURI MULE.......

OV-1D

  Ya know that brings a question to mind every time it comes up with this safety notch on the cylinder , has anybody ever heard or had a problem with keeping these pieces at half cock ? I never have so please let me know if anybody has . Now if one is prone to dropping their weapon or even by accident I figure they had better start carrying a knife instead . Strictly an opinion of course . ???
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Dinadan

Quote from: OV-1D on May-03-14 17:05
  Ya know that brings a question to mind every time it comes up with this safety notch on the cylinder , has anybody ever heard or had a problem with keeping these pieces at half cock ? I never have so please let me know if anybody has . Now if one is prone to dropping their weapon or even by accident I figure they had better start carrying a knife instead . Strictly an opinion of course . ???

I have posted this a couple of times before, but I do think it is important to any discussion of carrying at half-cock.

Regarding half-cock and NAA Minis, here is something to consider. When in half-cock the mini cannot be fired by pulling the trigger, though perhaps dropping it on the hammer would do the trick. However, it is possible to place the hammer of a mini in a position which appears to be half-cock but is not. I call it false half-cock. From that position the hammer will drop if the trigger is pulled, and it has enough force to fire the gun. I tested that myself.

Below are a couple of photos showing the two positions using my Magnum-mini. Note that the trigger and the hammer are positioned differently in false half-cock. Normally a mini hammer will not just fall into the false half-cock position, but if you release the trigger at exactly the wrong time as you lower the hammer it can happen. Three of my magnum minis and my LR can be positioned in false half-cock. Top photo is half-cock: bottom photo is false half-cock.

SteveZ-FL

Quote from: OV-1D on May-03-14 17:05
  Ya know that brings a question to mind every time it comes up with this safety notch on the cylinder , has anybody ever heard or had a problem with keeping these pieces at half cock ? I never have so please let me know if anybody has . Now if one is prone to dropping their weapon or even by accident I figure they had better start carrying a knife instead . Strictly an opinion of course . ???

Why would you want to?  You still have to fully cock it to fire.  Half-cock now opens the weapon up for the potential of debris to find itself where it shouldn't.  The safety notch is there for a good reason - safety!  Bypassing engineered safety systems just doesn't make any operational sense and adds unnecessary risk.
...SteveZ

"...you never need a gun until you need it badly" - from WEB Griffin's The Honor of Spies, and Victory and Honor.

OV-1D

  It just makes one wonder seeing mini's have been made since the 70's with them doing just fine and this safety notch is just coming into play , whats up with that , everyone starting to go stupid or what . If anything is going to affect the 2nd Amendment's status it's going to be the ignorance of people with a firearm............... that's our worst enemy .  ??? 

  Dinadan I guess your right but I haven't found that false cock position yet or maybe once when I was fooling around a long time ago with stopping the hammer in motion .  ???
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

RogueTS1

Welcome to the forum. I say that if you are on the range loading and immediately ready to shoot; leave it in half cock, then cock it when ready to fire. No use fiddling with the gun if on the line ready to shoot. Now however if you are loading it to carry it; then never carry it in the half cock position. Always carry on an empty cylinder or in the safety notch.
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

silverback

Quote from: roguets1 on May-03-14 20:05
Welcome to the forum. I say that if you are on the range loading and immediately ready to shoot; leave it in half cock, then cock it when ready to fire. No use fiddling with the gun if on the line ready to shoot. Now however if you are loading it to carry it; then never carry it in the half cock position. Always carry on an empty cylinder or in the safety notch.

I concur!!!