Reason for 22LR shortage

Started by Kevin55, August-28-14 19:08

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Javier C.

I like it!
If it wasn't for the shortage of .22LR, it would be fun to have such a novelty.
And, of course, you would have to pay Uncle Sugar for the licenses and stamps to own, possess, and fire such a gun, since it is full auto.

TwoGunJayne

Those auto lowers aren't cheap. At all.

It makes the upper look like a bargain. Might as well, right?

Such wonderful toys!

Kevin55

Quote from: I on August-30-14 15:08
.223 from Teh Glawk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkJuu7rwNEc
That guy needs a Ransome rest!

Well he just Mythbusted the movie US Marshall's.   The bad guy would have shot Deputy Girrard with 9mm ammo in his .40 Glock.

sopsax

Just looked at this thread. I'm wondering if any of you have ever seen, let alone fired a sub-machine gun known as the American 180? It is a carbine-like shoulder-held weapon that fits a drum magazine on top of the receiver. It is in .22LR caliber and the drum magazine takes 277 rounds in three layers inside the drum. It is spring loaded and requires about 10 minutes to load a drum magazine. The cyclic rate of fire is 29.5 rounds per second and at that rate, will empty the magazine in under 10 seconds.

Below the barrel was fitted a laser-site of enormous proportions (circa 1975), resembling a long thin brick.

When I was with LAPD, I saw it (actually heard it first) being fired at the LAPD Academy 50-yard line range in Elysian Park (the regular firing line was 25 yards, but there was a little-known 50-yard range on the roof of the building). This was in the mid-1970's.

The guy firing it was Metro Division's Armorer (that's where I was assigned, too) and I had worked with the guy many times while at Metro. He invited me up to the roof to fire it. He said LAPD had two of these things in the SWAT armory (Metro).

We used some old dusty and dirty .22LR rounds he had in a shoe box and loaded the magazine. Then, he held a napkin under the ejection port (it was a bottom-eject design) and told me to squeeze the trigger but instantly let off when the gun started firing. I did so, and the thing kicked out five empty casings.

There was hardly any recoil - the thing sounded like a chain-saw when it was running - that's what I first heard. The sound was nothing like the .22LR machine gun shown in this thread's video (which has a much slower cyclic rate of fire).

He had some block-wall bricks out there and we decimated those bricks with the thing. Apparently, the rapidity of hits from the .22 were enough to destroy block walls and other barriers. At the time, laser-sights were almost a fantasy and I put the red dot on the head of full-sized silhouette target at 50 yards and blew out the whole head of the target. It was a VERY impressive weapon. It was the most easily controlled full-auto gun I'd ever fired.

The Armorer told me he had blown holes through body-armor rated to stop .30AP rounds with this gun. He subsequently put on demonstrations for various units where he did just that.

I don't think LAPD ever deployed these weapons and I don't know if they still have them. Several years ago at a gun show in Ventura County, I saw a display for the American 180. The one being shown was semi-auto. I chatted the guy up and he was amazed to run into someone who was familiar with his product and who had actually fired the full-auto version. sopsax

evan

22 is the way to go; as far as I am concerned. 

Kentucky Kevin

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