Holster .22 LR aims low?

[Fardog]

Hi new person here, glad to be here.

I am thinking of getting the NAA 22 LR gun with the built in folding holster. Person on YouTube has said that that gun always shoots 4 inches too low, and that he can make no adjustment in order to correct it. Has anyone else had this problem.  He is specifically stating that this is due to the built in holster.

Thanks a lot.

[grayelky]

All of the little revolvers have such a short sight radius (distance between the rear and front sight), that none of them shoot to point of aim. The general consensus seems to be pretend the front sight is not there, and aim across the top of the frame and down the barrel. This will give surprising accuracy at most any reasonable distance for these revolvers.

For those of us who have a different definition of "reasonable distance", pie plate hits can be made at distances out to 100 yards, with some practice and familiarity with your revolver. As long as you keep in mind the intended purpose of the mini revolver, you will not be disappointed.

[Shovel-ready project]

There are threads here about how folks have cut down the fixed front sight to raise the point of impact. If you find it difficult to look through the front sight as suggested, file it down a bit and try it. I did and it works. Even if I don't specifically use the sight, it seems like the sight draws my eye to target.

[G50AE]

Welcome to the forum fardog.

[tocsn40]

Yes a wecome from the peanut gallery.

[MR_22]

New NAA owners should confirm they are aiming their minis correctly before making permanent adjustments.

You are meant to aim down the flat top of the barrel and place the front sight directly over what you want to shoot. Many new NAA shooters tend to aim the gun such that they are seeing only the top of the sight. This is not correct. You should see the ENTIRE front sight when aiming, all of the way down to the front sight base at the top of the barrel.

I posted a NAA mini sight picture here awhile back. Not sure what the thread was called.

EDIT: Found the thread. Check this link and note the pictures I posted (which I stole from somebody else who posted them).
LINK: http://northamericanarms.com/naaminis.com/smf/index.php?topic=4814.msg78824#msg78824

[OV-1D]

  That folding holster has got to be the worse grip in order to hold a gun properly along with it being sloppy . Again these guns were designed for up close and personal in the first place where placement doesn't much matter very much like a hand grenade . Just an opinion of course . 

[Shovel-ready project]

New NAA owners should confirm they are aiming their minis correctly before making permanent adjustments.

You are absolutely correct to try everything else before filing on your gun. Covering the target with the sight that way just did not work for me. I'm more of a measure-once-cut-twice guy but I don't recommend it.

[bill7676]

 ;)hello far dog,,,,and welcome,,,i would not do any file work or anything like that,,,,who knows you may want to trade or something never know,,,i only have one mini mag. right now a 1-5/8" barrel model,,, I don't worry about sights really,,,,to me my mini is for youre in my face get  out of it,,,up close and personal,,,i also carry a small seecamp 32 acp,,,,they come from factory without any sights at all,,,however the seecamp is really something,,,larry seecamp and his dad knew what they were doing when they came up with those little gems,,,all you have to do is be standing in front of your target,,,,and whip it out,,,point and shot,,,those seecamps will put 5-6 rounds mid sec. of target every single time,,,i pocket carry( front),,,desantis superfly holster,,,,when I withdraw my side arm the holster stays put,,,,,however I can see why you might want the naa with the holster grip,,,get a good hold on it and all,,, I just ordered different grips for my mini from naa,,, should be here about Tuesday,,,i hope,,,iam going for the boot grip,,,also I am trying the houge slip on,,,like the tucker trailmaster has,,,i think they are very nice also,,,i cant hardly hold on to mine with some mag. rounds,,,they come out screaming,,,,well anyhow I talk to much,,,sorry about that,,,i really am into guns and things I guess.............once again welcome fardog

[bill7676]

I will try to post my mini with new grips when I get them,,,or sortly after,,,prob. take out to club and try out first off........

[bill7676]

 ;)and no this isn't my desantis superfly holster...........rattle snake.................

[Fardog]

Thanks for all the advice, I appreciate it.

And thank you for welcoming me to your group.

By the way I saw a video on YouTube about the Ranger, whatever happened to it ,I don't see it in the catalog? 

Well, thanks again.

[bill7676]

they stoped making the ranger fardog,,,I wish I had one though,,,,you can still find them on gunbroker once in awhile,,,however they sell for top dollar...........

[Goatpacker]

If you buy the gun thinking you may want to "trade" it later then don't file the sights, don't even shoot it for that matter. If you are buying it to carry and use as I do all my guns then break out the file and adjust the sight to where it shoots right for you. I have filed all of mine. Once you get the little gun "shooting right" for your style you prob will not feel a desire to trade it. If you don't make it fit you then you will prob feel the need to trade or sell it. With the exception of the Breaktop, these guns are not big trade commodities to start with.

I look at my minis as a "pocket knife with some punch". It is carried everyday used to dispatch undesirable critters. Just as some may pull out the knife they use as a tool to whittle to pass some time, my mini may be pulled out to "plink" to pass time.

These little guns are very handy and lots of fun. Buy one, practice with it, modify it to suit your needs and just enjoy carrying and useing it.

[Javier C.]

I use the bottom of the front sight blade as the "aimpoint". 
The top of the rear sight notch is level with the base of the front sight blade and covers the point I want to hit.  That brings the point of impact up a substantial amount for me. 

Work out your own sweet aim point, and use it consistently. 

P.S.  The method I use doesn't require altering the firearm in any fashion, preserving the initial value of the piece, in case you should ever decide to sell it to someone else.  People also look askance at any firearm which bears marks or clues of having been physically altered in some way, shape, or form. 

[Goatpacker]

To each his own but I like all my firearms to have the same sight picture as I like my watch and all the clocks in the house to show the same time. I just don't like trying to remember which one is correct and which one is 5 mins slow or fast. As with clocks, if I can adjust them I will just to save any confusion.

[OV-1D]

To each his own but I like all my firearms to have the same sight picture as I like my watch and all the clocks in the house to show the same time. I just don't like trying to remember which one is correct and which one is 5 mins slow or fast. As with clocks, if I can adjust them I will just to save any confusion.

  That's pretty tough to do Goat being every grip is different and how you hold it is different because of weight , shape , caliber changes (recoil) so many factors . Multiple guns is always a problem that's why it's best to keep carries to a minimum unless every target is close as possible as it should be in self defense .   

[MR_22]

To each his own but I like all my firearms to have the same sight picture as I like my watch and all the clocks in the house to show the same time. I just don't like trying to remember which one is correct and which one is 5 mins slow or fast. As with clocks, if I can adjust them I will just to save any confusion.

Practice makes perfect. I prefer a manual transmission in my car, but our family car is an automatic, which my kids prefer. I can drive both of them just fine without mixing them up. Familiarity with each type is key.

[Goatpacker]

Some had rather adjust themselves to fit the tool, I just prefer to adjust the tool to fit me. It just seems to me that some on here are afraid to make alterations to these little guns for fear they will loose value. These things are inexpensive (that is why most of us can own several of them). Now would I file, drill, sand, or whittle on a $15,000 double rifle? Maybe not (but then again I prob would if it made it work better for me), but these are $250 little guns. If they cost twice that much most of us would be afraid to stick them in our front pockets with our keys and loose change.

Now if a person does not have the tools, skills, or desire to work on one of these guns then they are left with no other choice than to adapt to the way it comes out of the box. But if you have a few simple tools, some basic metal shop skills and an adventurous mind then don't be scared to use them.

I'll say once again that if you want to buy these guns to use for "trade" at a later time or think they are some sort of investment for profit then buy them and keep them locked in the box. Don't carry them or shoot them.

[OV-1D]

 That's certainly right Goat everything you said anything to hit the target . Your right also in the fact that these are cheap enough , the cheap ones that is , just that hitting where your aiming takes a sight more than looking at the sights , steadiness , breathing , lighting , weather , powder charges , calibers  state of mind even so will tinkering really make a difference I seriously doubt it unless a barrel isn't finished properly or bent or simply not sighted in (with adjustments) . Nothing is off that much to miss a kill shot on a target area anyhow . If shooting tack heads at ten yards is the quest one should buy the appropriate weapon system . But then again you could be one of those alligator murderers on the t.v. in the swamp , ha ha ha .    Now those are some classy guys Javier was talking about on another thread .      By the way Goat jewelers files work great . Ha Ha Ha Ha .

[Goatpacker]

I see now that you understand what I'm saying OV. Tack heads at 10 yards? No. A snakes head at 10? That is the tool I need to have in my pocket. If anyone thinks they can consistantly and I mean consistantly hit a 1" dot at 10 yards without acquiring some kind of a sight picture then I'm calling BS. Instinctively hitting a target lets say the size of a human head or center mass at 10 yards? Simple enough with practice.

[OV-1D]

  I have a 10/22 with a Tasco scope and believe it or not tacks at 50 feet anyhow consistently with Winchester ammo, great freaking gun love it , it's almost like on a string almost scary . O.K. back to thread sorry .