22 short key chain gun.

Started by Kentucky Kevin, March-07-15 07:03

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Kentucky Kevin

Guys, I searched the site, and could not find any mention of such a creature. I believe it has been available in the past, am I correct? Before I switched to holster grips on my carry guns, I occasionally found my mini cocked in my pocket. Has anyone used a key chain ring on a short, and has this been a problem?
I will try the search function and see if it bears fruit.
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OLD and GRUMPY

Ouch! Good thing you didn't end up half cocked! A good jeweler/machine shop could mount a ring on the back strap . Play with the spot to get just the right "hang" you like.  Don't know if "Goldsmithy" takes orders but he does nice work.
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grayelky

Don't remember NAA offering one, but there is a lot about the company I don't know.

For what it may be worth, I have been carrying a LR since 1977 in my right front pocket, and switched to a magnum about 6 or 7 years ago. I have never found one even partially cocked. For my $.02 worth, I would not want it on my key ring. I would be a little concerned the keys may get in the way of getting a grip on it. Of course, practice may prove me wrong.
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

bill_deshivs

Carrying a mini revolver on your key ring is a very, very bad idea! When carrying any gun in a pocket, you should NEVER put anything else in that pocket.

Kentucky Kevin

Thanks for all of the feedback guys, I respect all the wisdom found on this board. I'm really more of a lurker, than a regular participant, but still think highly of ya'lls input and experience.
        I've been VERY happy with the folding holster grip, with its, covered trigger, faster access, and greater controllability. I was explaining/showing gun size, and showed the online picture of the short, and it reminded me of someone here telling of putting there keys on the desk with a 22 short attached and it made my mind wander.
       Where is Two Gun Jane?
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"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves."

OLD and GRUMPY

Stop lurking and post. We have been needing more good posters since the melt down.I miss Two gun also.
Death before Decaf !!!!!

swolf

Old Grump, I agree.  2Gun brought some substance to the forum with relevant and timely posts.  I enjoyed his experience and insight.  I have no doubt that he lurks here as he loves the minis and the topics they bring up.  Since his departure we are plagued with the "tru dat" and "+1" posts that are meaningless and add nothing to the conversations and serve only to raise the individual's post count--which is meaningless to me anyway.

ptrck85

I have to agree...wouldnt want my mini attached w/ my keys.  However...this is one keyring gun I wouldn't mind.   :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPa0wMY8Qq4 

Too bad it seems to be illegal everywhere.   >:(
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tocsn40

Naa does have a way to atach a ring to a mini I have seen it before. They drill a hole in the fram and but a pin in that has a hole in the side of pin.  You can look at the last shot show video and see the mini they are holding has a cable on it fixed to the mini
Tocsn40

Kentucky Kevin

Quote from: OLD and GRUMPY on March-07-15 15:03
Stop lurking and post. We have been needing more good posters since the melt down.I miss Two gun also.
I will work on it, I'm on my son's laptop, as mine is in the land of Fruits, Nuts, and Flakes being repaired.
Jesus loves YOU all of you
"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves."

littleone

The reference to "key chain gun"comes from a police magazine article as description  of size of .22 cal NAA guns.I found this described when doing a search.

coppertop

I'm inclined to agree with others who think a key chain ring on a NAA mini is a bad idea. Too much to get in the way of handling the weapon properly, which could result in a stray shot. Now using a key chain loop to carry the NAA Mini on a necklace isn't a bad idea.

For what it is worth, I've carried a NAA for over 25 years and have never had the hammer cock while the weapon was in my pocket. I've carried it naked in my pocket and in a holster but the hammer never budged.

I'm wondering if you have a weak hammer spring. It takes a little effort to cock a NAA Mini and it sounds a little strange reading that it was accidentally cocked while riding in your pocket.

I also agree with the comment that the pistol should be the only thing in your pocket.

RogueTS1

That key chain pistol is a neat looking idea. I would not carry it but it sure would be an interesting topic of discussion lying in the vault.
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

swolf

I think the intent/value of the "keychain" connection is actually as a neck carry.  I made a leather neck holster for my shorty that connects with a ball chain and have found it VERY practical.  I considered drilling a connector into the shorty to have it dangle from the chain on its own.  Emergency use would constitue breaking the chain upon deployment.  It would also need to be worn over a t-shirt layer as the gun would scratch and chafe.  My leather holster on the chain twists and pokes like a keychain connection would, but is still a great deep-concealment option that I use a lot more than I thought I would.  It hides and rides well with light summer clothing with low neckline shirts,with only an innoculous ball chain showing.

RogueTS1

I was referencing the key chain gun in post #7 by ptrck85. It is quite the item.
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

OV-1D

 If anybody that wants a key chain stud on the grip wouldn't want one after firing it and it dang near tears a chunck of meat off  :'( unless your wearing gloves , crumby idea or its attached to the bottom of a boot grip then its livable .  ???
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coppertop

Nah. If installed correctly the necklace stud won't bite you.

The ones I've shot have smooth, polished, rounded edges and really the only way I could see it taking a chunk of meat out of your palm is if you shot with a really weak grip.

Kentucky Kevin

I believe I had a gun cock twice, not sure which, I have four that I've put holster grips on, and it was one of them. I have them on the top of my pockets, with stuff inside, and never have had a problem.
Jesus loves YOU all of you
"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves."

Dinadan

The key chain sounds like a bad idea to me. I do not like the idea of a gun swinging from the ignition in my SUV. Plus, my gang of keys already makes a poky lump in my pocket without adding anything else.

But, I think a NAA Short secured to a Double Albert pocket watch chain would be nice. Just that not too many folks use a Double Albert these days. I like to carry a pocket watch, but a Double Albert would be a bit too formal for me except on funeral and wedding days.

OLD and GRUMPY

Because there are too many times a day you need to use your keys in public keeping mini on it is a bad idea. Violation of your  CC permit. Or just asking for problems if you don't have one. A ring for a short lanyard to help fish it out of the pocket might be good.
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PaducahMichael

Found this old ad  - - no idea of the date when it ran...

"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness."

OLD and GRUMPY

Bring back the Double Albert. Got great grandpas watch. Wedding and funerals bring out the more interesting kin. One of Goldsmithys minis would go just fine on Albert.
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Uncle_Lee

Quote from: Paducah Michael on March-09-15 18:03
Found this old ad  - - no idea of the date when it ran...

Not too old.
The cylinders have safety notches.
Don't know when they were started.

Just had a thought. (yes, me)
"Old" is a relative term.
25 years ago to some is old, to others, not so old.
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boone123

I think you could get a lanyard ring installed on  a mini 2-3 years ago, by sending your gun in to NAA. I though about having it done, but didn't because of the cost of shipping. Next plan was to do it myself. Still the plan someday. Don't know if that service is still available at NAA, but was in the past.

Goldsmithy

The tumblers in your ignition switch will wear MUCH quicker due to the weight of a NAA revolver on a key ring. Additionally, having keys and a NAA on a key ring will interfere with quick access.
Don't take life to seriously---you'll never live through it.

tocsn40

Quote from: Paducah Michael on March-09-15 18:03
Found this old ad  - - no idea of the date when it ran...
i have seen this add before and this is what i posted about seeing. I would like to see it on the bottom ass OV-ID had said it would not feel that good being that it was on the grip face. but if it was on the bottom i could see my self but a cord on it to go around my wrist to keep the little bugger from flying a way lol
Tocsn40

OV-1D

Quote from: tocsn40 on March-10-15 13:03
Quote from: Paducah Michael on March-09-15 18:03
Found this old ad  - - no idea of the date when it ran...
i have seen this add before and this is what i posted about seeing. I would like to see it on the bottom ass OV-ID had said it would not feel that good being that it was on the grip face. but if it was on the bottom i could see my self but a cord on it to go around my wrist to keep the little bugger from flying a way lol


   By NO MEANS am I going to show you the bottom of my ass Tocsn40 unless of course you have a mini gun for trade .  ;D ;D
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

OLD and GRUMPY

I resisted the temptation earlier to joke about the extra s typo until ov-1d had a chance to give one of his classic responses. Love it. My type of humor! 
Death before Decaf !!!!!

grayelky

There is another way to wear you mini around your neck. Trim a new 22 brass cleaning brush to be a little shorter than the barrel. Drill a hole in the threaded end for a ball chain. The brush will hold it adequately until it is needed. A quick pull will free it for use.
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

tocsn40

Quote from: OV-1D on March-10-15 16:03
Quote from: tocsn40 on March-10-15 13:03
Quote from: Paducah Michael on March-09-15 18:03
Found this old ad  - - no idea of the date when it ran...
i have seen this add before and this is what i posted about seeing. I would like to see it on the bottom ass OV-ID had said it would not feel that good being that it was on the grip face. but if it was on the bottom i could see my self but a cord on it to go around my wrist to keep the little bugger from flying a way lol


   By NO MEANS am I going to show you the bottom of my ass Tocsn40 unless of course you have a mini gun for trade .  ;D ;D
Mom they are picking on me lol.
Tocsn40

OV-1D

   NOW Tocsn40 about that trade ?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

stantheman86

Unless your state allows open carry I wouldn't keep a Mini on my keys........plus the gun will get completely beat and scratched to heck unless you don't care.  The only advantage I see is using the lanyard ring for one of those Monkey Fist defensive ball bearing key fobs so you can use the lanyard to more quickly retrieve the gun from your pocket and also have a last ditch impact weapon.

Most non gun people would probably think a Short Mini was a lighter or a toy anyway if they saw it on your key ring. I just don't want some soccer mom calling the cops on me when I get in my car because she sees a gun.......even though PA technically has open carry it's still a hassle.

beachmaster

I am a new poster here, and MAN do I HATE putting these dumb letters in every time I post! I can't even read them half the time!

Anyways, I had seen the same thing recently! I have a retractable lanyard on my pocket knife, and i was thinking the same would be nice on the mini.

I dont keep retention on the 1911, but it isn't going ANYWHERE. And if it does, I will Know. The mini on the other hand? In the wrong situation, if it worked its way free of a pocket or holster, you might not feel or hear it...
That being said, having a 1911, a lanyarded knife, AND mini on one side might be a little cramped

bigfeo

I like the idea as mentioned above using a retractable lanyard and I would attach it to my belt buckle, alone, and I would carry it in my small pants pocket, which fits well and away from anything else.  I dont really like the idea of having one hanging off your neck, especially the ones facing barrel up towards your head.  Seems really dangerous especially in a scuffle id rather have one in my pants facing down, plus having to reach up to your chest doesnt seem very convenient.  I do like the idea of having a mini revolver hanging off my key chain tho seems pretty *** cool lol. 

gebe

Quote from: boone123 on March-10-15 07:03
I think you could get a lanyard ring installed on  a mini 2-3 years ago, by sending your gun in to NAA. I though about having it done, but didn't because of the cost of shipping. Next plan was to do it myself. Still the plan someday. Don't know if that service is still available at NAA, but was in the past.

Yeah, they used to offer the lanyard ring service several years ago. If I remember correctly, the price was very reasonable. I almost had it done to my .22 short mini but I decided against it as it looked to interfere with gripping the little gun.

They stopped doing it for some legal problems.