22 short revolver using 22LR ammo?

Started by deja_vu, April-06-12 18:04

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chopprs

The answer to the question is if you look at some of the NAA cylinders there is a "step" inside the cylinder. The short is simply a cut off LR clinder, there is no step in it and the LR cartrige should slip right in.

   A "SAFE" way to check would be to wiggle the projectile from the case, dump out the powder and fire the primer and the push the case in to the cylinder to see just how hard it is to push in. I am not aware of NAA shouldering the earlier Short cylinders. I do not know if they did or not but an educated guess would be that they have always been made the same way, a manufacturing summise. My guess is as has already been stated that this is an early example and may be an imperfection or just a tight gun.

   There are two answers to this issue:

   1) you can send the gun to NAA for a later cylinder with the safety notches(NO!)

   2) you could have a gunsmith relieve the cylinder to the proper dimension.

   One other answer is to find another late cylinder from a parts auction and keep the gun original, which I think is futile as number two is really the right way to fix this issue.

westerly1965

Chops ~ I think I am with you on that. I would like to keep it original if I can so probably a gunsmith is the way to go. Or I guess just run shorts in it as they seem to load and function fine. Just thought it was interesting that it is this way. I would like to have the ability to run the higher velocity ammo if I can. I think next time I go to my lgs I will leave it and get their smiths opinion on it. I will keep you posted.

grayelky

I suspect NAA will be hesitant to fix it so it will fire LR. However, if you send it in, it will return with a new cylinder with the safety notches. Due to the age of it, I would just live with it, as it seems to be an older, original gun. Buy a newer short to shoot LR out of.
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he lives in california, easier said than done
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chopprs

I would suspect that it would not be too costly to fix as a simple honing would fix it.

   You could actually do it yourself it you were very careful......

Uncle_Lee

On the 22 short model made at Newbury Park, the cylinder is NOT bored straight through.

   I dug one out of the shoebox to see if it was and no, it is not. It is chambered for shorts only.

   You can see the ridge.

   

   

   

   

   
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deja_vu

very educational picture! I am not a guy that knows a lot about the NAAs but that picture surprises me. I would have guessed that all the cylinders for the 22short would have been the same, apparently I would be wrong.

westerly1965

Uncle Lee ~ thank you thank you thank you!  I have been trying to get a decent pic of that and have not been successful. I took the little short over to my buddies yesterday he has a really nice gun bench in his house. We completely broke this thing down and went through everything. After further cleaning the ridge became so defined that you can feel the case "click" on it when you try to chamber the LR round. Going to take this little guy to the range today and see how it does now that it's all cleaned and lubed appropriately. I'll let you guys know how it does. Now that we are this far along I have decided two things first I am not going to do anything to this gun except use it with shorts. I don't want to get a new cylinder fitted and I don't want to change this one I like that it is unique. Second I am going to work this gun into my carry rotation for minis just because I think it's cool. That said I had some pearl grips at one time for it and sold them. So if anybody has any cool short grips they are not using and is interested in getting rid of them let me know I am in the market. Thanks to everybody for their input this has been a very interesting learning experience.

Moderndayedison

I generally use Golden Boy shorts in my LR

   cylinder without any issues, pretty accurate

   just not as much range or power as the LR  

   cartridges. I use them for plinking for fun

   and fairly short range target practice.

   

   I could see how someone could theoretically

   file some of those sub-sonic sniper rounds

   down to fit in a short cylinder for giggles.

   But like the other guys have pointed out it  

   would likely give lawyers some meat to chew

   on in the court room, and that isn't really

   a good thing, especially since their already

   doing far more chewing than they should.

   

   Blaming a gun for killing someone is allot like

   blaming a match or cigarette lighter for burning

   a house down.....it's quite a leap, but one most

   prosecuters take way too often these days.

   

   I suppose an unarmed population would be much

   easier to herd into concentration camps and  

   systematically exterminate than an armed one.

   

   I hear that if we don't learn from history that

   we may be doomed to repeat it, kind of like the  

   Great Depression....I'll be quiet now.

   

   

   -MDE

   

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MDE

   

   Good to hear from you again.

   

   How was prospecting?

grayelky

MDE-

   Nice to see you back.
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