.22 Shorts. Can they be used in a LR revolver?

Started by Panoply, December-21-15 07:12

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Panoply

I guess that says it all.  I remember my father having a 9 shot revolver that took both.  Will NAA's do the same?

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Uncle_Lee

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UncleSarge58

What about .22LR in a .22Mag NAA ?
Will they Fire & Is it Safe?
UncleSarge58

MR_22

Quote from: UncleSarge58 on January-03-16 06:01
What about .22LR in a .22Mag NAA ?
Will they Fire & Is it Safe?
UncleSarge58

Nope. .22-Magnum shell casings have a larger diameter than those for .22LR. You risk the casing bursting.

lefty dude

Quote from: UncleSarge58 on January-03-16 06:01
What about .22LR in a .22Mag NAA ?
Will they Fire & Is it Safe?
UncleSarge58

Some Yes, some No.

I had an RSS that would shoot 22LR's in a Mag. cylinder. The mag cylinder had tight chambers, extraction was a little tight, and the cases were bulged a bit.
This was a mistake on my part, as I thought the 22 LR cylinder was installed. I shot a half box of shells till I discovered the FUBAR.

I would not encourage this except in an emergency issue. Where one does not have the proper 22 mags and must use the piece for what ever reason it is deemed a necessary action.
Keep in mind you can have a case separation and chamber damage.

Uncle_Lee

Quote from: UncleSarge58 on January-03-16 06:01
What about .22LR in a .22Mag NAA ?
Will they Fire & Is it Safe?
UncleSarge58

They will fire.
Safe????
Never !!!!!
Unless self injury is not important.
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OldManJared

Can you shoot shorts and CBs out of a LR conversion cylinder?

lefty dude

Quote from: OldManJared on January-05-16 13:01
Can you shoot shorts and CBs out of a LR conversion cylinder?

Yep; 22LR cylinder only

grayelky

LR in a mag chamber? BAD idea. The LR case is s slightly smaller than a mag case. While it will fire, quite often the brass will split allowing gasses to escape in directions not intended, such as towards your eyes. As mentioned, in a true survival situation, they will fire. You are the one who would have to evaluate risk vs reward.
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

Uncle_Lee

Quote from: grayelky on January-07-16 03:01
LR in a mag chamber? BAD idea. The LR case is s slightly smaller than a mag case. While it will fire, quite often the brass will split allowing gasses to escape in directions not intended, such as towards your eyes. As mentioned, in a true survival situation, they will fire. You are the one who would have to evaluate risk vs reward.

Even in a survival situation I would wrap a shim around the LR case.
Something like a thin piece of paper.  (don't laugh too loud. it has been done)
Anything to maybe keep the case from splitting.
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bbgun

When I got my Ranger, I took it to the range and started shooting.  In a few cylinders I had about four misfires.  I was checking it out and found I was using the one with the mag cylinder, and firing LRs.  Good thing I didn't get hurt. 

RogueTS1

I thought the Ranger only came in .22 mag?
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scbuxton

Quote from: bbgun on January-07-16 09:01
When I got my Ranger, I took it to the range and started shooting.  In a few cylinders I had about four misfires.  I was checking it out and found I was using the one with the mag cylinder, and firing LRs.  Good thing I didn't get hurt. 

This would seem to be a teachable moment.  First, bbgun, please take no offense, as none is intended. I will use the circumstances of your post as an example. 
Let me state the obvious. With firearms, heavy equipment,  aircraft,  farm machinery and a host of other  potentially hazardous or deadly  things,  there is often little or no margin for error. Knowledge and training combined with user skills are the only thing between an every day event and disaster.
BB, in your example,  did you lack proper training?,  do you lack necessary skills? or did you lack specific knowledge of this handgun?
Anyone that handles a firearm must absolutely without exception be familiar with the safe handling of that specific firearm and the ammunition that goes with it. As with the old addage, treat every firearm as it is loaded, we must always know without a doubt,  what ammunition goes with a particular firearm. A few common examples of improper ammunition for a firearm are;
.223 in a 300AAC blackout
300AAC blackout in a. 223 / 5.56
22lr in a 22 mag
Modern 45's in a cowboy only gun
Modern 32's in an old black powder 32 frame
And I could go on,  you get the picture.
My point is that we should never ,ever think, guess, suppose or assume anything when handling firearms. KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT, THEN CHECK AGAIN!!!

Dinadan

SC, I think you are being a bit hard on BB. I have also accidentally put LRs in a mag cylinder. After the third consecutive misfire I  figured out my mistake. I have been shooting for over fifty years, and to be completely honest I do not remember if I was ever trained or not! If I were intentionally shooting LR in a WMR gun (I used to do it with a Hi Standard derringer) I would just be sure to wear safely glasses to protect my eyes if the case were to split and gasses or solid fragments escape.

MR_22

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Quote from: uncle_lee on January-04-16 04:01
They will fire.
Safe????
Never !!!!!
Unless self injury is not important.

I agree. You should NOT do it, although I have--by accident. I once grabbed my old .22-Magnum-only H&R revolver to go shooting, thinking I was getting my other .22LR one, and took it to the range, and shot quite a few rounds of .22LR in it, before I realized I had the wrong revolver (or wrong ammo, depending on how you look at it!). I didn't have ANY problems at all, either in shooting or extracting the rounds. In fact, I was thinking the gun was shooting quite accurately and was pleased with it, until I noticed my mistake.

Even so, I would DEFINITELY NOT recommend it. In fact, I thought about mentioning the above experience when I wrote my previous post above, but decided not to do so, because I thought it might prompt somebody to try it.

If you're living under the "poopy fan" scenario, and that's all you have, it's better than nothing. But using the correct calibers is always better than not.

zburkett

One of the very few things I would change on my Earl is I would like the Mag cylinder marked so there is an external difference.  I've even considered taking my etch engraver and marking it or taking it to be engraved.  BTW the only down side to shooting .22 shorts in  LR cylinder is after several boxes you may need to scrub the cylinder to get Long Rifles to seat and eject properly.