No Lube Needed

[cfsharry]

Bought a new AR a while back.  The manufacturer utilizes a proprietary metal treatment which they call RF85.  The RF85 process is purported to reduce friction allowing for faster cycling and eliminate the need to lube the gun. To clean the bore one runs a damp, water only, no solvents, patch followed by a dry patch.

   

   So far I have fired a wee bit more than 1,000 rounds through the rifle and the manufacturers promise appears as if it is being upheld.  Nothing seems to be sticking in or gumming up the action.

   

   My question is; does anyone have greater experience with this or any similar process longer term.  Right now I am impressed.

   Any thoughts, insights or knowledgable opinions would be greatly appreciated.

[RogueTS1]

New treatments may "reduce" the need for lubrication but I would not "eliminate" placing some lube.

   

   The norm for AR's used heavily is to place a lot of lube on the rails and the bolt and then wipe off all the junk at the end of the day or as permitted.

   

   If the new treatment is working as I would think it would I would suggest just a little lube in all the right places to keep the gun safe and in the best working order.

   

   We do some of this type stuff when we build a racing motor and boy does it improve performance but we still put oil in the block. I would simply think of it as an improvement rather than a replacement. JMHO.........

[pistolpete308]

MILTEC was invented as a dry lube for M16s.  

   

   A lot of soldiers in the desert were having problems with lubes attacting sand and grit which jammed the weapons, so they developed a dry lube to adress the problem.  

   

   Supposedly it works pretty well.