Sidewinder Open/Close Hard?

Started by boddah4, April-01-16 12:04

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boddah4

Today I was at Cabelas and looked at a sidewinder. I and the salesman had a hard time opening and closing the cylinder on it. Is this typical? Do they "break in" and get easier? Is there a trick to it?
I got rid of my minimag because I didn't like having to remove the cylinder on it to load and unload it. I worry that the sidewinder won't be much better.

ikoiko

You need to push on the cylinder and knurled pin area.

boddah4

Quote from: ikoiko on April-01-16 13:04
You need to push on the cylinder and knurled pin area.
We were, maybe a trick to it we weren't doing consistently.

OV-1D

 I've had that knurled section start to unscrew which prevented me from openning and closing easierly , it does unscrew if anybodys having same problems . Dab of locktight screw back on .  ??? ???
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jennflip

When closing the sidewinder I push on the cylinder with my left thumb and with my right thumbnail I push on the " ball bearing" tip to start it in the slot and then push cylinder and knurled part "home"====   works great

boddah4

Sounds like it works well once you get used to it?

Scroller

Hammer must be in half cock to swing cylinder.

JRobyn

#7
The spring on the cylinder pin tip is quite stout, maybe a little bit more than necessary.  And the tip is more of a cone than a ball (like a tiny ball bearing).  And the "ramp" in the frame that the tip presses into is very tiny so there's not much ability to machine it into a smooth gradual ramp.

All of this combines to make the tip a bit difficult to "snap" back into the frame, especially when one is new.  I smoothed my pin tip some with some fine sandpaper, and made sure that the whole pin assembly was thoroughly lubed with a high-quality lube.  And then cycled it repeatedly to help break it in.

I can now "snap" the cylinder and pin back in with just pressure on the cylinder, but it takes more force than I like to use with a small delicate (?) crane like this, so I usually help it back in with direct pressure on the knurled part of the pin assembly.

There are compromises when making things as small as practical.

Ruger

I, too, found that good lube and a little polishing on the pin tip helped with closing the cylinder.  It also helps if you rotate the cylinder slightly as you press in.  Even though I can now close it with just pressure on the crane, I still use two hands to assist the pin tip.  Treat it tenderly; there are too may full size revolvers out there where the cylinder rod was bend from banging the cylinder into place.
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JRobyn

Isn't it Smith revolvers that can be damaged by just "flipping" the crane closed?

heyjoe

any revolver with a crane can be damaged doing the wrist flip to close the cylinder.
It's too bad that our friends cant be here with us today

RogueTS1

Flipping the cylinder of a revolver closed is a big no no................
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

OV-1D

Quote from: RogueTS1 on April-05-16 12:04
Flipping the cylinder of a revolver closed is a big no no................




  I think Rogue you wanted to add is if the crank rod isn't too long as the Sidewinder is a little too long and delicate for man-handling like such . Maybe ! ;)
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bbgun

Leave the wrist-flipping to Jimmie Cagney. :)

Ruger

Quote from: bbgun on April-05-16 20:04
Leave the wrist-flipping to Jimmie Cagney. :)
That what I say, see.
Never Take anything Too Seriously . .Just Enough Will Do.

JRobyn

Quote from: heyjoe on April-05-16 11:04
any revolver with a crane can be damaged doing the wrist flip to close the cylinder.

I do NOT actually do it with my Super Red Hawk, but if I did, I think its robust construction could handle it.

Ruger

Quote from: JRobyn on April-06-16 09:04I do NOT actually do it with my Super Red Hawk, but if I did, I think its robust construction could handle it.

Makes me cringe just thinking about it!
Never Take anything Too Seriously . .Just Enough Will Do.

bleak_window

I always flipped my LCR cylinder closed because I hated than gun.  Traded it for a real gun. 

OV-1D

#18
 Today I just received my first metal NAA box and to my surprise a four inch barreled Sidewinder was in it with the conversion cylinder . The release lever is real stiff for sure , Used some white lithium grease on the tip , openned and closed it a few dozen times and thats all it took . Used dry lubricant spray on the rest of the gun , works like a charm . Wish the knurl was deeper etched for grabbing purposes . The wood stock grips are a very miserable fit though , really sorry looking . Price was right thru Bud'sGuns and fast too . Now to work on some antler boot grips for the perfect look .  ;) ;)
  Heck I'm using Sandy's picture , except my piece is prettier  :D , it's what threw me into buying one , simply a beautiful picture . ;)  Got to admit this metal lock box is a fantastic plus , thanks Sandy . ;)

P.S. I did exclude California from the Union for the picture only .  ;)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

RogueTS1

Photos please when you finish and mount the new grips OV. It sounds like a wonderful plan.
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

OV-1D

 Will do Rogue , I'm picking thru my stock supplies to see which is going to make it really come alive and sassy . I ordered NAA's basket weave holster and a flap holster also one of those will dress it up nicely . I'm a fan of their holsters , the basket weave model is made that it will last for centuries .  ;) ;)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

estuardo

For the OP...mine was difficult to open at first, but after cleaning it when I brought it home, it worked fine. My biggest concern now with it, is the crane screw comes loose very quickly! Thankfully, I bought a couple extra screw in case...