naa revolver pocket carry

Started by Frotz, June-25-16 20:06

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Frotz

This topic has gone on and on for too long in my circle of friends and relatives.  Are the NAA mini-revolvers safe to carry completely within a pocket so long as the firing pin rests in a safety slot?  I and others say "yes".  Others say "no" pointing to the exposed trigger and hammer.  Could I get some authoritative statement on the subject and possibly get it into the FAQ?

Uncle_Lee

#1
Welcome Frotz.

https://northamericanarms.com/faqs/

Second one.
"FAQ – Mini-Revolver Safety Cylinder"

"The North American Arms Safety Cylinder feature allows the gun to be carried fully loaded. There are halfway notches located between the chambers. The hammer is lowered into one of these notches after the gun is loaded. When the hammer is pulled back to the firing position the cylinder rotates to the next chamber."

I grew up resting the hammer of a revolver on an empty chamber and am too old to change now.
So my minis' hammers rests on empty chambers.

If I went to England I could never drive on the left side of the road either.
Too old to change.
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

zburkett

The mini is probably the safest gun you can carry.  If you put a folding holster grip on it, it actually covers the trigger in addition to making it far easier to fire effectively.  That said, any gun is made to be a killing machine and there will always be some idiot who can make it go off at the wrong time. 

rattlehead

I agree with zburkett's statement about it being one of the safest you can carry. For the gun to go off, the hammer would have to be accidentally cocked (which takes a substantial amount of force), and then the heavy trigger would have to accidentally be pulled (also takes a substantial amount of force). Not to say it couldn't happen, but its very unlikely IMHO. Been pocket carrying mine for around 15 years and I feel more comfortable with it than many of my larger pistols which I carry with one in the pipe. I do use a pocket holster but would feel perfectly comfortable carrying it without one as long as nothing else is in the pocket with it. The primary reason I use a pocket holster is because it keeps the gun aligned with the handle in the upright position for a quicker draw. Has nothing to do with worry of accidental discharge. 

Bigbird48

I agree with rattlehead it would be extremely hard to make a mini fire by accident .You would have to cock the hammer then pull the trigger. I don't5 see how this could happen by accident.It could happen by purr negligence that being your playing with it in your pocket or something and you cock it and shoot it . Someone once said theres no such thing as an accidental discharge, it negligence . If you carry a gun your suppose to be in control of that gun 100% of the time , and if it goes off and you weren't expecting it to go off your negligent.There is NO excuse, none not ever. 

cfsharry

I too am old school and would never trust the safety notch unless in a good pocket holster. The notch is not that deep. Better to carry hammer down on an empty cylinder. Just my opinion.

Bigbird48

Whats the difference notch or empty cylinder ?? You still have to cock it and pull the trigger to get it to go bang


Quote from: Bigbird48 on July-01-16 18:07
I agree with rattlehead it would be extremely hard to make a mini fire by accident .You would have to cock the hammer then pull the trigger. I don't5 see how this could happen by accident.It could happen by purr negligence that being your playing with it in your pocket or something and you cock it and shoot it . Someone once said theres no such thing as an accidental discharge, it negligence . If you carry a gun your suppose to be in control of that gun 100% of the time , and if it goes off and you weren't expecting it to go off your negligent.There is NO excuse, none not ever.

grayelky

I have been carrying a mini since 1977. Until about 12-15 years ago, I kept the hammer on an empty chamber. I discovered the "new" safety notch" cylinder, and the free conversion. Since then, I carry with all five rounds loaded. That is a total of 39 years, every day. So far, I have not had one go off in my pocket. I'm gonna vote, "Safe to carry in the safety notch."
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

pocketcarry

This person should not be trusted with any type of pocket carry. I have pocket carried since the mid 80's and never has it ever attempted to go off. LOL
"In every day carry no handgun is small enough. In a gunfight no handgun is big enough."

RogueTS1

Quote from: cfsharry on July-01-16 19:07
I too am old school and would never trust the safety notch unless in a good pocket holster. The notch is not that deep. Better to carry hammer down on an empty cylinder. Just my opinion.

Same here with what CFS said.
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

Uncle_Lee

I would never attempt to tell a man how to make love to his lady and I will not tell him how to carry his gun. Just how I carry mine.
Unless it is in the pocket without a holster, hammer cocked,
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

OV-1D

   I really appreciate that Unc , its kinda freaky thinking your watching . Ha Ha .
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

Kentucky Kevin

I have had my NAA "cock itself" twice in my pocket, years ago( lot of shtuff (@ #10)in my pockets & person & I've added a reload for my Glock 26.
I carried w/ holster grips for SEVERAL years w/ no problems only spotted a few times
Jesus loves YOU all of you
"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves."

zburkett


Ruger

Never Take anything Too Seriously . .Just Enough Will Do.

Bigbird48

standard rule is the only thing in the gun pocket is the gun period . I really can't see a mini cocking itself with out some kinda help ???

PaducahMichael

Quote from: zburkett on July-06-16 07:07
what kind of pocket?

Inspired by Captain Kangaroo, no doubt!
"The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness."

zburkett

From that picture he carries more in his pocket than I do in the tool box on my truck.  What kind of pocket holds all that stuff?

OV-1D

  That's always been my question also . Some fellas just love stuff I guess , heck I can't even carry change it bothers me so , I might look as Batman with my stuff on the outside , keys , wallet lanyard , covered gun holster , no more no less . I leave it to the wifes purse for anything else like hand grenades , machine guns , rocket launchers things like that . Ha . 
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .

cwlongshot

I too have carried a NAA since 1988. For a spell I used a wallet holster. I also had a few pairs of pants sewn so the revolver stands up for easy "draw". I found the revolver flopping over in my pocket, very annoying.

Now I use a holster with spare ammo. Its a wallet, but needs to be extracted to be fired.

CW

OLD and GRUMPY

#20
The exception to the safety notch are the cap&ball Companions. The firing pin is different. Must carry over a empty  chamber.
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Death before Decaf !!!!!

pietro

Quote from: Kentucky Kevin on July-06-16 06:07
I have had my NAA "cock itself" twice in my pocket, years ago( lot of shtuff (@ #10)in my pockets & person & I've added a reload for my Glock 26.
I carried w/ holster grips for SEVERAL years w/ no problems only spotted a few times


FWIW, the Golden Rule for pocket carry is to carry NOTHING else in the same pocket the gun is in.


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Be careful if you follow the masses - Sometimes the M is silent

Bigbird48

Hasn't that beed said already in post #16 :o ???


Quote from: pietro on July-18-16 13:07
Quote from: Kentucky Kevin on July-06-16 06:07
I have had my NAA "cock itself" twice in my pocket, years ago( lot of shtuff (@ #10)in my pockets & person & I've added a reload for my Glock 26.
I carried w/ holster grips for SEVERAL years w/ no problems only spotted a few times


FWIW, the Golden Rule for pocket carry is to carry NOTHING else in the same pocket the gun is in.


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scbuxton

Quote from: Bigbird48 on July-18-16 13:07
Hasn't that beed said already in post #16 :o ???


Quote from: pietro on July-18-16 13:07
Quote from: Kentucky Kevin on July-06-16 06:07
I have had my NAA "cock itself" twice in my pocket, years ago( lot of shtuff (@ #10)in my pockets & person & I've added a reload for my Glock 26.
I carried w/ holster grips for SEVERAL years w/ no problems only spotted a few times


FWIW, the Golden Rule for pocket carry is to carry NOTHING else in the same pocket the gun is in.


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Nope, it was #15 and you called it the standard rule, not the Golden rule.

Bigbird48


SERIOUSLY :P :P AND IT WAS POST 16



Quote from: scbuxton on July-18-16 14:07
Quote from: Bigbird48 on July-18-16 13:07
Hasn't that beed said already in post #16 :o ???


Quote from: pietro on July-18-16 13:07
Quote from: Kentucky Kevin on July-06-16 06:07
I have had my NAA "cock itself" twice in my pocket, years ago( lot of shtuff (@ #10)in my pockets & person & I've added a reload for my Glock 26.
I carried w/ holster grips for SEVERAL years w/ no problems only spotted a few times


FWIW, the Golden Rule for pocket carry is to carry NOTHING else in the same pocket the gun is in.


.

Nope, it was #15 and you called it the standard rule, not the Golden rule.

OLD and GRUMPY

#25
Now what do you think Captain kangaroo would say about this squabbling?

MY MINI IS BIGGER THAN YOUR MINI!
Death before Decaf !!!!!

scbuxton

#26
Quote from: OLD and GRUMPY on July-18-16 16:07
Now what do you think Captain kangaroo would say about this squabbling?

MY MINI IS BIGGER THAN YOUR MINI!

Nope! MY MINI IS SMALLER THAN YOUR MINI! !!! ;D
Ok, I'll behave. I don't want the captain calling Mr. Moose to drop ping pong balls on my head!

Kentucky Kevin

Jeans
Jesus loves YOU all of you
"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants – but debt is the money of slaves."

Bigbird48

 >:(WOW both fingers on the triggers :o

zburkett

Ain't that cool about single action revolvers?  Don't get active till you cock them.  Old Sam knew what he were doin.

Bigbird48

Sorry first rule of Gun safety keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot. It applies to all guns in all circumstances . If you think its ok to do it on a revolver then you forget and do it on a semi with a hair trigger and somebody gets hurt. :'(

scbuxton

Quote from: Bigbird48 on July-19-16 11:07
Sorry first rule of Gun safety keep your finger off the trigger till your ready to shoot. It applies to all guns in all circumstances . If you think its ok to do it on a revolver then you forget and do it on a semi with a hair trigger and somebody gets hurt. :'(
How do you know that Kevin is not ready to shoot????? :o ::) He might be straddling a rattlesnake.

Bigbird48

I seriously hope this is your attempt at Humor because if your serious I think you better get some gun safety training    :o

scbuxton

Quote from: Bigbird48 on July-19-16 15:07
I seriously hope this is your attempt at Humor because if your serious I think you better get some gun safety training    :o
Lighten up, Bird. I am an NRA instructor, well versed in firearm safety. I strongly feel that Kevin's picture poses no threat to your safety, unless you were under him and out of the frame. Yes, since you seem to lack a sense of humor, I'll spell it out to you. .. NO I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT KEVIN HAS A RATTLESNAKE BETWEEN HIS FEET. And, if you look closely,  the minimaster hand is NOT on the trigger and the other is obscured, maybe, maybe not.
The important issue here is that Kevin reports to carry daily, shoots and instructs his kids. I do not see it as my responsibility to   call him out on a photo. He's of age and responsible.
Why take every opportunity to get the jump on a perceived rule violation ? Does that show that you are an authority or rule keeper?

Bigbird48

your an NRA Instructor huh yea tell me another. I sure as hell don't want you instructing anywhere near me or my kids. The guy is wrong and your wrong for trying to defend it and if you can't see that then there's something wrong with your thinking.