Sometimes you look at a fire pit and think it's out but once you start poking at it the embers glow and the sparks fly......just sayin'

Is it possible that the "Grand Poobah" of the Guardian returns?

My experience dealing with NAA has been outstanding and this forum has also been very helpful especially when I first bought my 22lr mini and my 32acp Guardian.

NAA will fix your gun under warranty they have proven that to me twice.

Quote from: OV-1D on October-27-24 13:10It doesn't get any better than that unless they hand delivered the gun back to you . NAA is AAAAA +++++ .  

In some way they are. The FedEx van will be right out front of the house and I'll have it handed to me by the driver. Close as you can get.

I didn't pay anything for either the repair or replacement shipping. They were very professional and showed they actually cared about my satisfaction.

I can't throw stones they gave me no reason.

I have to comment with my experience. My Guardian failed and was replaced it took a while but they had to actually manufacture one for me. My LR mini failed they repaired it and sent it back within 2 weeks. I experienced a small issue with the new guardian and I'll have it back tomorrow they got it last Monday. What could have been a stressful experience Whitney Mitchell at NAA was wonderful and very professional. It made all the difference in the world.

I retired after 43 years of automotive service. Customer satisfaction was very important, Did everything go right every time? No but having patience and understanding makes for a much less stressful experience for customers and manufacturers.

NAA is very good at taking care of business give them the chance and be patient.   

I have posted a few times about my experience with a 32 Guardian I had purchased. I was very happy at first but all of a sudden it was double feeding ejecting the magazine and generally had become suddenly a jamamatic. I sent it in to NAA they diagnosed the issue and decided to replace the gun. The professionalism of Whitney Mitchell in the service department was spot on. I went to the FFL today to do the paperwork and back round check I gotta wait till Monday to add it to my permit. Then I can go pick it up.

North American Arms has proven to me that they have your back

I just got my 22lr mini back from repair within two weeks from the time I sent it in. I couldn't be happier. They replaced the bolt spring and the hammer. I know they test fired it because it was dirty but they polished it up so nice it looks brand new. I enjoyed cleaning it, I'm not gonna lie. Locks up nice when fully cocked or 1/2 cocked. I'll take it out to the range soon.

I didn't realize how much I would miss having the mini. It gets carried a lot.

I wonder if the new Winchester 21 Sharp rim fire round would work in a 22lr mini. They say it shares the same case, the same overall length and similar pressure (comparable more to a CCI Stinger)

If not maybe a mini in 21 Sharp only if the round can stand the test of time and be popular

Quote from: OV-1D on September-06-24 16:09Heck its always good to get reports on us that tells us we are still above ground , right ?    

Like I've said before OV, every day above ground is a good day. The older we get we either have our own health  issues or lose friends and family. I just hit 67 I know some may say that's young but many of my friends or family have died younger.I always try to make the best of my time and cherish each new day.

I'm very disappointed about this but not discouraged about NAA products. I'm glad it was found during a routine cleaning from the carry a lot shoot a little role this gun has. I'll be contacting NAA this coming week. Good thing I didn't need to use it or take it out to the range. Since NAA is also replacing my Guardian due to a non repairable failure and has been very professional during the process this will not sour me on their products. NAA stands solidly behind their products and have proven that to me so far. Shout out to Whitney Mitchell Customer Service Manager for the outstanding support I've received.

That's what I thought I knew it should spin on 1/2 cock but not full cock. I'll give NAA a shout. I just didn't have another mini to compare to.

I really never noticed this before on my 22lr mini but you can move the cylinder around when fully cocked. This doesn't seem right to me.
What do you guys say?

Before I finally bit the bullet and got real glasses I put AR15 style sights on my Ruger 10/22 carbine. I've always been an iron sight guy and the sights worked out great then and still do. They cost less than $50.00 I've been able to out shoot many of my friends with scopes on our "woods walk" .22 shooting games at my friends camp.

Every day above ground is a good day 

I put the boot grips on my LR mini. It makes the gun easier to cock and it doesn't add too much bulk. I have it in my pocket right now.

I do like to carry my LR mini behind my wallet on occasion regardless of whatever else I'm carrying but never more than 2 handguns at a time.

Quote from: camo on May-13-24 17:05
I'd have to have it in 410. My ol arthritic hands and fingers couldn't handle the 12 gauge. 410 and .22 are mostly all I shoot nowadays.

I have a Kel Tec KS7 I must say that thing is, although manageable, a real beast. Flawless function and well made. Yeah I get it it's a Kel Tec but my Gen 1 P32 has never failed me either. I will admit I had a PF9 which in theory was the perfect stick it in you back pocket gun but it was a jammamatic so it went bye bye.

You can't win 'em all

Quote from: OV-1D on March-31-24 06:03
  You really are fortunate to have all that for only $ 200 bucks a year .

Believe me I know and I don't take it for granted. In my younger years of going to public ranges and seeing some major safety violations along with very poor supervision I joined the club and have never looked back.

We have steel targets during the winter at my gun club on the outdoor pistol action range. They have side and top shields to deflect any shrapnel toward the ground. I'm so fortunate to have a beautiful private club with indoor pistol outdoor pistol and pistol action range archery range and rifle range. We have a nice clubhouse with a food counter and bar. Of course having 1 drink is off limits to the ranges. You must qualify for each range so safety is paramount. All this for under $200.00 a year! I've been a member since the early 80's.

Where I live you can ship out yourself but have to receive from an FFL , my state taunts Federal laws in the interest of "keeping us safe". In my repair note I am asking for all new springs I gave it thought about things wearing out that would explain the deteriorating performance I did purchase it used. I will also ask how much to smooth the trigger a bit as well. I want to keep this gun but there were others in the past I said the same about and didn't. Like I taught my daughter about people there are assets and liabilities true friends you can trust and the ones who you can't. Same with guns.

I shoot the gun regularly and most sessions were without incident just the occasional last spent round stove piping which is normal. I always use a firm grip and use a revolver like trigger press. I belong to a gun club that's only a few miles away and bring it along every time to put a few magazines through it. Silvertips Hydra Shocks 71gr FMJ Critical Defense are the mix in testing. I've had the gun about two years. The last two range sessions the double feed jams started and had to be cleared with a wooden dowel. No matter the magazine I have 4, I started to notice the magazine pull thing as well. All magazines are flat base (I filed down the finger extension on 2 of them flat.)
I have had a CCW since 1982 I am no novice shooter. In the past any gun that has not been flawless ends up being traded off which anybody else would do if in my position. I'll send it to NAA and hope it comes back dependable. I have a 1st gen Kel-Tec P32 and it has never failed not once since I got it new in 1999 this is the standard all my guns must uphold and except for the Guardian do.
One last thing, in my state you must use an FFL for shipping it's not an NAA thing it's tyranny.

I'm sad to report my otherwise "almost" flawless Guardian has started double feeding the last 2 live rounds even with what I thought were flawless Critical Defense rounds. Also started pulling magazines loose a few times. NAA has been very responsive I'm just trying to get to an FFL for the shipping. My local gun shop closed due to unfriendly gun environment Like Remington did moving after over 100 years . I'm glad I only carried it sparsely but loved it in a back pocket holster. Didn't even know it was there. I'm confident they will fix it I really like the gun but of course I have to be able to trust it at least 250 rounds without a bobble.

I have to agree with ammo selection. My Guardian hates WW white box flat points and isn't the best with Fiocci fmj. Aguila, Federal, Remington fmj feed great with no issues. I have never had a bobble with Critical Defense either and they are as long as fmj so I don't worry about rim lock. Mine also likes silvertips and hydrashocks. My P32 is an fmj gun as far as I'm concerned and it eats all kinds of it. Critical Defense works perfectly as well but shorter hp's can be an issue.

I agree with the speed of follow up shots with a single action mini vs a semi auto or double action revolver 100% Of course nobody wants to ever have to get into that situation in the first place. I practice the same close quarter get off me drill and have been for years with various pocket guns and snub nosed revolvers. Draw gun from the pocket lock my elbow into my hip the gun forward of the hip but close to my body my left fist is on my right shoulder (arm covering heart) and rip away at a steel target on the action range. If you do it in practice you'll do it in the game.

Welcome to the forum my first NAA was a 22lr mini which led to a .32acp Guardian. It's contagious, I'm thinking a 22 mag mini next. They say there is no cure.

I have to agree about the no joy to shoot thing from the Grand Poobah of the Guardian bearcatter. I do find myself carrying it a lot despite the discomfort which isn't really that bad. I'm sure if the balloon goes up so to speak it will hurt the bad guy more than it will hurt me. I have trained quite a bit with mine since I got it early this year. My club has an action range where I can draw from my pocket and rapid fire multiple steel targets if I choose. Has never jammed or failed to go bang. What more could I ask for?

I just swapped fresh ammo (fmj) in mine and two spare magazines this morning. Great little gun and it works flawlessly.

I would prefer if going small to have my .32acp Guardian as a minimum carry 3 quick shots to the gut and a couple higher might give you a good escape. My LR mini is more or less my dog walking or taking a brisk walk alone gun especially at night. Lots of critters in my area come out at night which pose no problem unless they are sick. Came close once to an aggressive fox with mange dog walking it felt good to have that mini. Fortunately it ran away with a quick shout.

Quote from: MR_22 on August-13-23 10:08

Quote from: dinooch on August-13-23 10:08
I just saw one that had sold for $2050.00 on the Lock Stock & Barrel Investments site. Serial number RB202

I'd say you scored heavy.

Holy crap, really? I've owned most of the earlier Talo editions (mins the Spider) and I think the Riverboat was my favorite. My new one is in the upper 400's, but I'm not complaining. I also don't think I'm reselling soon to reap a profit. This one's a keeper!


BTW, this set was recently inherited when the original owner passed and the new owners didn't really appreciate them like the collector had. She did seem pleased that it was going to someone who did appreciate more. I mean, she did seem conscious of that fact. So we both left the deal happy.

I got my Winchester 101 20 ga skeet gun with gold inlayed engraving jeweled receiver and beautiful wood for $200.00 Haven't seen one for less than $1000.00 it was a retired judge's gun and he had passed away.

I just saw one that had sold for $2050.00 on the Lock Stock & Barrel Investments site. Serial number RB202

I'd say you scored heavy.

My 22LR mini revolver to me is like the old Jello motto "There's always room for Jello". My wearing light shorts at home gotta run to the store etc. gun. Mine has not misfired and I've shot it a bunch. It's way better than nothing and perfect for dog walking.

Today I shot my 32acp Guardian and for the first time had zero discomfort. The trigger slap I got was due to not enough finger on the trigger.  Getting used to a new to you gun can sometimes take time. Having said that I shot fmj, fmj flat nose, and Silvertips and the gun performed flawlessly. I really like my NAA guns. I also shot my LR mini with the boot grips. Those grips made that mini so much easier to cock and shoot. That gun drew some attention at the range a few guys wanted to see it. One guy came over and said he heard shots but it looked like I was just pointing my finger. I guess that's the whole point of a mini right?

I got the rosewood boot grips for my 22lr mini from Naa. They made all the difference in the world for cocking and shooting the gun with minimum increase in overall size.

Of course what's good for one is not always good for another.

 I agree they are very snappy but built like a tank. The life expectancy will out live the next person who has my 32acp Guardian after I'm long gone. I shoot 2-3 magazines on occasion just to stay sharp with it. Not a range beater by any means.