Quote from: Teddydogno1 on September-25-13 19:09
A shop near me stocks quite a few Minis...maybe 15 or 20 in the case ranging from Shorts to Sidewinders to Earl "Sheriffs".  One caught my eye as mentioned above:   Black 1 5/8" Ported Mag Mini with Pearl "Spade" grips.  It looks like the Talo Blackjack except for the pearl grips rather than wood.  I don't see this on the Talo listing, or the NAA website (regular or Special Edition pages).  Can anyone provide detail?  Is this a current product?  In demand?  I'm really tempted... 

EDIT:  Found it on the current Talo S.E. page...it's the BlackJack II.

Rob

I'd have one if the didn't come ported.  A true black beauty that I would be honored to carry with pride.

Funny this came up when it did.  I had a similar idea, but with a different tag along pistol.  It will "git er done" at 10 feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh8o8EQECiY

Quote from: G50AE on September-24-13 04:09
I want a single stack pocket sized Glock in 380ACP, with an option for a conversion barrel to .32NAA. 

Diamondback DB380 is what you want.  I went with 1 5/8".  I'd have a Sidewinder if it came in that length.

Quote from: jw1128 on September-10-13 05:09
I am still after a wasp, but the jewel would be a 32naa guardian, and I have not seen one ever in person, and Buds is in my backyard.

I apologize in advance, but had to post this since your wish list perfectly matches my NAA "collection".  You have wonderful taste.




Oh to keep this post on topic, I'd like a Black Jack that hasn't been ported. 

Quote from: OV-1D on September-02-13 18:09
  Only leather is the deal why would anybody want to put your beautiful gun in some glorified trash bag material . Fondling your holster is almost as fine as fondling your gun . Only a traditionalists opinion of course .

I guess I must be a New Traditionalist.  The best compromise idea I've seen this year.  Remora Holster's new Remora-Hyde line.  Sticky synthetic outer shell with a liner of fine Hermann Oak leather.  It's actually thinner than the original Remora holsters with the synthetic liners.

I've had a couple of boxes of Aguila Super Maximum and Interceptor sitting in my test queue since last year.  Based on your results, maybe it's time to test these. 

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the awesome idea.  I've been using a Remora Hyde pocket holster, but I'd love to try the Wasp on the belt or IWB.  Have a mag pouch on order from an Ebay seller that should be really close to your price with delivery. 

I really like the way the revolver looks in black and it would have been my first NAA, but it's ported.  I went with another model that isn't ported.

The group that does this training operates out of my home range where I do all my ballistics testing and other review work.  I'm not sure where the stock image came from, but I can assure you they will not be armed with NAA Minis.  Think small'ish 9mm pistols of very good quality and great reputation for reliablity.

 

It rattles like a box of Tic-Tacs in my pocket, but the price was right. (freebie)  Ask the counter if they have any pill boxes the next time you are in WAG.

5 each of Magnum and LR with room to spare. 

I put up the 22 LR tests two weeks ago.  Here's the recap of the WMR tests.

http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2013/07/22-wmr-denim-and-gel-tests-from-naa.html

Only if it comes with the Blackjack finish, but not the Blackjack ports.  Ports on a NAA are about as worthless an upgrade as the Laserlyte bayonet knife attachment IMO.

This week I published the results of my test with 2 popular 22 LR loads.  Performance was quite good for both.

http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2013/06/22-lr-denim-and-gel-tests-from-naa-wasp.html

Next week I'll publish the recap of the two 22 WMR loads that I tested the same day.

First of the four tests is up on YouTube.  Not sure when I'll get the rest done.  I think I got lucky and landed on a great load right out of the gate.




Full Test on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybgwekDWjyQ

I was killing time so I did a mail call and thanked those that had subscribed while I was out on the range.  Feel free to subscribe to the PocketGunsandGear YouTube channel and I may just do another mail call and tell you Thanks for Subscribing.   

I didn't know if the hyper velocity stuff was ok or not for the NAA so I decided to stick to the high velocity stuff.  I have Stingers, Aguila Interceptors and Supermaximum, Minimag +V, etc.  I'm sure more tests will be coming soon. 

Overall after testing 2 mags and 2 LR, I'm not overjoyed by the performance of the magnums from the 1 5/8" barrel. 

Quote from: TwoGunJayne on June-15-13 11:06
Hey! I watched the video where you thanked them for subscribing!

I've been here the whole time and thanked you for testing shots from mouseguns into the gel!



I'm patient.

I really did like watching the gel jiggle from that LR action. Thanks.

Anyway, there seems to be some question as to whether or not CCI .22 LR Stinger can defeat some Magnum loads out of a short barrel (under 4 inches.)

Interested?

I had a freaking ball at the range with my Wasp today.  I can't believe I've missed out on all the fun for so long and never actually tried one of these little guys.

First the brag.


Now some info on what got tested.  It might be weeks or months before I publish these tests.


Finally some info you can use right away.  DO NOT BUY Critical Defense for your NAA.  It binds the cylinder AND tumbles more than Boy George.  Expansion was negligible.


If I carry my Wasp, I'll have it loaded with cheap old Federal Lightning.  This load cleared the 16" block of bare gel and made 13 3/8" with a 360 tumble after going through 4 layers of 14 oz denim.  CCI Maximag didn't clear the bare gel block and did about the same through the denim, but tumbled 540 vs. the 360 the Lightning did.  The Maxi Mag did not expand.

I Like Pie....













and the .32NAA.

Speaking of interesting bottle-necked cartridges that could use more gun maker support.  BRING BACK THE NAA 17HMR.  I'd buy one.  I'd even buy the Mach 2 conversion cylinder even though I don't own a Mach 2 gun.

Quote from: MR_22 on June-14-13 13:06
Very cool. Thanks for the data. I've been trying hard to get a hold of one of those Diamondback .32NAA barrels to revive my DB380 (after I upgraded to a DB9), but no such luck. I want one badly.

I'll trade ya my DB 32 NAA barrel and some cash for your 32 NAA Guardian.   

That's a good deal on that ammo.  It tested well.  I put back a few boxed, but didn't go nuts.

Full Test
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2013/02/hornady-critical-defense-32-naa-80.html

Just the fact sheet.

I'm now completely out of previously shot gel blocks and I'm sitting on 6 fresh blocks that are ready to be shot.  So here's my question for all of you.  If I could test one or two LR loads from my 1 5/8" this weekend, which ones would you like to see?  I'm sticking to solids because my 2.4" Bobcat can't generate enough velocity to make a 22 LR expand.  I don't think the NAA would send them out faster than the Beretta.

22 Mag is easy.  I'm testing Hornady Critical Defense and CCI Maxi Mag HP.

Can't believe I wanted this pistol so badly, but have yet to actually shoot it.  Getting it out on the range this weekend will be a nice Father's Day present to myself.   

FYI....here's long range test of the Remington Yellow Jacket I did last weekend.  You may find it interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkSbDycrm9Q

I recently agonized over this decision and ended up with the 1 5/8" Wasp conversion.  I really wanted a Black Jack with conversion cylinder an NO PORTS, but I could wait the rest of my life for that model to come out so the Wasp as the next closest in overall looks.  The only other NAA that could tempt me would be a 17 HMR.

Howdy all.

I ran some short barrel tests on a few 22 loads back in December before I had my NAA.  I do plan on running some tests with the Wasp at some point down the road, but thought I would share these tests with you now.

http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2013/05/22-long-rifle-cheap-stuff-ballistics.html

CCI Mini Mag HP
Federal 550 Value Pack HP
Winchester 555 HP
Remington Golden Bullet 550

How awesome would it be if everyone had the option to order a Deluxe model that was done up like this, minus the organizational affiliations.  The auction pistol is beautiful, and I'd be proud to carry and shoot one that looked similar but wasn't so rare.

Quote from: turkeyhunter on April-20-13 08:04
Man those grips look good.  I like the blue.  It wouldn't have been my first choice but after seeing them on your wasp sure makes a difference. 

My first choice would have been Silvertone, but it appears to have some brown mixed in with the silver and black.  Regardless, I'm very happy with the Royal Wood.

Quote from: bigwheel on April-19-13 20:04
In a tense situation I would much prefer a .35 Whelan. Yall are wild and crazy boys.

.308 for me, but I don't think it's mini friendly.

As Delivered.


Now it's ready to shoot.  Yes, blue is my favorite color.

From my tests, the 32 ACP is a viable SD cartridge with the right JHP and FMJ ammo.  Please include me on the list of folks that would be interested in a 32 ACP revolver from NAA.  Semi-rimmed so we should be able to avoid the drama of moon clips.

My favorite 32 FMJ
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/11/clear-gel-terminal-testing-sellier.html

My favorite 32 JHP
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/12/clear-gel-testing-fiocchi-32-auto-60.html

I've got this on my list of things to test at some point.  I shot a snake with my 4.5" Ruger SS Six 22LR several years ago.  I used a CCI shot shell.  It ain't a 410 so don't expect to blow the head off as someone above mentioned.  It did make snake ball up and much easier to dispatch with a shovel.

Quote from: Hardtackwon on April-06-13 16:04
What is that stuff in boxes behind the gun???lol

That would be ammo.  Actually bought Federal 22LR birdshot, CCI 22 Magnum Shotshell, and Winchester 22 Magnum JHP from the store where I picked up the NAA today.  I've always had a buy and hold strategy with mutual funds and ammo so I've got plenty of older 22 WMR for terminal testing (CCI Maxi Mags in the picture are 90's vintage).  I just need to track down the newfangled Gold Dot Short Barrel and Hornady Critical Defense 22 WMR.

Two weeks ago I visited a local shop that had a 1 5/8" Wasp in 22WMR, but no 22LR cylinder.  I stewed on that for two weeks while keeping an eye on Buds and GB.  Nothing came up in those two weeks so I decided to go shopping again today and buy the Wasp without the conversion cylinder.  I walked up to the display case and there was the 1 5/8" Wasp, but sitting next to it was a foam wrapped spare cylinder.  Have you ever seen a 49 1/2 year old man break out in a spontaneous fist pump in the middle of a crowded gun store before?   Well, you missed your chance.  Now get this......The salesman sees my fist pump and strolls on over (he knows me from previous purchases) to see if he can help me.  I tell him I'll take it so he goes in the back room and comes back with ANOTHER Wasp 1 5/8" with 22LR spare cylinder that's never even been on the sales floor.  Deal done.  Moral of the story....looks like NAA shipped a bunch of revolvers over the last two weeks.

I opted for 1 5/8", even though it looks like 1" was the most popular.  Thanks for participating on the survey.

Quote from: Dinadan on March-25-13 19:03
ljutic - I selected "other" because I carry different lengths at different times. Pug 1", Sidewinder 1 3/8", Magnum Mini 1 5/8". If Iwere getting a Wasp I would go with 1 5/8" barrel. Based on my experience with the other Minis I do not think the extra 1/2" of barrel will ever matter for concealment purposes, and it does give a little bump in velocity and accuracy. I feel certain you know, but I will say it anyway, other than cosmetics the regular Magnum Minis are the same as Wasps.

The Wasp look has me.  Well worth the extra $25 over the standard magnum mini convertible.  I'm only going to get one, so I'm waiting on the Wasp.  BlackJack 2 is my favorite from a visual standpoint, but the porting is a deal breaker. 

I am searching high and low for a Wasp 22m/22lr convertible so I can use it for ballistics testing.  I've had great luck finding a Wasp 22m in my preferred barrel length without the conversion cylinder, or a Wasp Convertible in the barrel length I don't prefer.  It occurred to me that maybe I should poll on the preferred barrel length from the folks that carry them the most.   

Quote from: naa_collector on March-23-13 10:03

Quote from: ljutic on March-23-13 09:03
That's exactly how you would do it.  If you every have a chance to look at a 9mm magazine for the 1911 platform, you will see the spacer is welded into the rear of the magazine.  Unfortunately, the 9mm single stack magazines are known to be the least reliable 1911 platform magazines on earth.

Ah, gotcha. I've ordered my first 1911 and it hasn't arrived yet, so I learned something today. BTW, my 1911 is 9mm/22TCM. I'm assuming the bottlenecked .22TCM will be much more reliable than a 9mm might be.

Should have added this picture in the first place, but was lazy.  I looked at 22TCM, but would only do it if I could convert a 1911 I currently own.  Neat concept and I'm really interested in how it works out for you.

Wilson 45 on the left and Dawson 9mm on the right.

Quote from: naa_collector on March-23-13 09:03

Quote from: ljutic on March-23-13 09:03
I'd like this too, but it will never happen because special magazines would be required to use 380 and 32NAA in a frame built to accommodate 9mm length cartridges.  I'm sure DBF would see this as too much investment for too little sales.

I wonder if you could insert a magazine spacer, like some people have done to try to prevent .32ACP rimlocks?

That's exactly how you would do it.  If you every have a chance to look at a 9mm magazine for the 1911 platform, you will see the spacer is welded into the rear of the magazine.  Unfortunately, the 9mm single stack magazines are known to be the least reliable 1911 platform magazines on earth.