Anvil,
There's no projectile in that load that you picture. It's a high pressure "blank" with powder only used for driving fasteners like nails. I definitely would not risk my mini or my hand with one.

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ADP3

I very much like the pocket holster and exotic grip suggestions. I would also like to see NAA offer companion lock blade, assisted opening, USA manufacture, pocket knives in a 3" to 4" blade. My mini goes with me everywhere, but so does a good lock blade 4" knife. Mine has a nub on the rear of the blade that quickly pivots the blade into a locked position. NAA could offer companion knives matched to the Short, LR, and Magnum frame sizes. The knife scales could match various NAA pistol grip offerings. A fellow can't have too many good guns and good knives.

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ADP3

I fell into the NAA wormhole in the 1970's. Found a .22 Short at the South Carolina Arms Collectors gun show in Greenville. It was the first I'd ever seen and it went home with me. A .22LR followed later, then a pair of magnums, and then, and then... I lost track of how many. Black Widows, Pugs, Earls, an original Ranger, many more .22LR's and .22 Magnums. Wish I still had that first .22 Short. I think that it's time for another one soon. Maybe a gold one for my 50th anniversary with NAA.

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ADP3

PS:
I forgot about the .32ACP Guardians. Several of them followed me home once upon a time. I always preferred them over the Seecamp. Useable sights, much wider selection of ammo, and less fussy takedown. I probably need to replace those long-gone Guardians too.

Thanks for the heads up. I?ll transfer some money into the checking account. Look forward to seeing the new offering.

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ADP3

Dear NAA,
I am resurrecting a request from February 2020. How about introducing a 1.5 inch barrel Pug. A bit more velocity and energy, my finger farther from the muzzle on a reload, and a hair more sight radius. It would not require much of a tooling change either. Below is a mock-up of a 1.5. Put me down for at least two if it goes into production. Thanks and Keep up the good work.

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ADP3

I would hate to use my NAA with those grips in self defense and have to deal with the questions that might arise if the case went to court.

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ADP3

Globe and Anchor seems to be an obvious choice.

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ADP3

I always got the best accuracy in a BW, and many other .22 WMR guns, using Winchester 40 grain ammo. Hornady Critical Defense and the 50 grain Federal JHP also usually shot well for me. The 30 grain loads never gave me decent accuracy in a revolver.

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ADP3

It is not rocket science figuring out why the government wants people vaccinated. The government?s responsibility as stated in the US Constitution is to "promote the General Welfare" of citizens. Over 724,000 Americans have died from COVID so far. Our worst total for flu deaths in the last ten years was only 52,000 in 2017-2018. COVID will continue to mutate and more people will die because of selfish, ignorant, naive, wimpy people unwilling to get a shot. This does not apply to anyone unable to be vaccinated due to extenuating medical issues. The vaccine works. It eliminates or at worst reduces risk of serious illness or death.

There is such a thing as the social contract. Being part of a nation requires that EVERYONE act for the greater good of society. It?s why we punish criminals who violate society?s laws. Go ahead. Refuse to get vaccinated. Join the ICU patients begging to be vaccinated on their death beds. Abrogate your responsibility. Pretend you?re still a good person and good American while you spread COVID, cause more mutations, and cause more people to die. You are absolutely free to deny science, common sense, and decency in this country that you claim to love yet refuse to protect by getting a simple vaccination.

ADP3

Looks great to me. 
Very minimalist. Just the way I like them. I have used a similar holster for 40 years. They work better with a longer barrel than on a Pug. They orient better in a front pants pocket with the longer barrels.

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ADP3

A dealer can ship firearms USPS but NOT an individual. You stand a serious chance of getting your gun confiscated and facing federal charges that could end your days of legal gun ownership.
I avoid all UPS stores. They are franchised outlets and I've never found one who knew what they were doing. They also charge more than a UPS hub. I use FEDEX for shipping guns. They've always allowed me to ship via 2nd Day instead of overnight so it isn't as expensive as Next Day delivery. If you list contents as something other than what is actually in the package shipping insurance is void and you could lose your gun if it's discovered. Shipping is expensive, but it's cheaper than a lawyer and the penalties if things go wrong.

ADP3

The rear sight dovetail is larger on a Black Widow than on a Pug so no direct swap without welding and cutting a new dovetail. It's a good idea but NAA looked into XS sights for the Black Widow and for some reason it wasn't feasible. There was a post by Jessica Jarvis a couple of years ago where she even visited XS and tried prototypes.

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ADP3

Tumbling is one reason that I've advocated a Pug 1.5, The velocity boost would be nice too. Also the XS sights are more snag free than current Black Widow sights.



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ADP3

Quote from: Postalman on February-09-21 13:02
Why worry about tumbling-it just makes a larger entry wound!

Tumbling bullets penetrate less. A tumbling .22 might not even make it into the rib cage.  Not good.

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ADP3

SOLD to copfish

I have two of the Old Style NAA Vinyl Zipper Pouches with the Lock built in to the zipper for sale. They are both in Great Condition with No Damage, Flaws, or Issues. Great for secure storage or to go with your older mini to complete the package. These came with the .22 Short, .22 LR, and .22 Mag original minis. They will fit them and the Pug. There may be others that fit but I can't guarantee it. I don't think they'll fit a Black Widow, and definitely not an 1860.
Long-time (all the way back to the original mini forum) member with 174 A+ Rating on gunbroker and 100% Ebay rating with 717 inputs on Ebay as carolinakudzu.  US Sales Only. $17 Each SHIPPED or $30 SHIPPED for the pair. Please post an "I'll Take It" here and follow up with a PM.
Payment via Paypal F/F Option or USPS Money Order. If you just want one tell me whether you want the top one in the pic or the bottom one. The mini is not for sale. It's just in the pic so you can see the fit.

Thanks For Looking,
ADP3

Married 45 years now and I took my cue from Nixon years ago,

"Mistakes may have been made. I have no recollection."

"I have no recollection" becomes more and more plausible every day.

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ADP3

With a reduced trigger pull some European ammo will not fire. I always suspected that small pistol primers in Europe might have harder cups for submachine gun use. Even with stock factory springs I had regular light strikes on S&B .32ACP in my Guardian in particular. GECO and older Fiocchi had occasional light strikes. With today's ammo shortages I'd leave things alone unless I had a good supply of ammo with proven reliability. I ended up polishing contact surfaces and leaving the springs alone. 

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ADP3

I've used CCI .22lr and .22 WMR shotshells out of 1 1/8" NAA .22LR's and 5 1/2" Ruger Single Sixes with good success. Standing 5 feet back and extending my arm equals one shot and one dead snake. Six copperheads and counting outside the house and one large black snake in the attic. I live near lots of woods and a big lake in SC and snakes are abundant. Two of the copperheads were in the garage. The CCI ammo did not cause any collateral damage. If there is ever an oversized snake that needs dispatching I'll use the 870. A mini is always in my pocket and I keep shot shells in an aluminum pill bottle for snake medicine since the mini is almost always loaded with Velocitors. If I was in South Florida I'd go for something with more oomph than .22 rimfire shotshells but around here they work well on the local serpents.

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ADP3

Belt carry requires a covering garment or your shirt tails out. Pocket carry just means you have your pants on. 99.999999% of the world wants me to have my pants on. 😃

I've always carried NAA's with the standard wood grips. The slip on grips are fairly easy to tear if you remove them and the large rubber baby bumper grips are just that - large. I don't mind them on the range but for pocket carry they add to much mass to suit me. The rubber also is more sticky than wood. But hey, go with what works for you.

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ADP3

Mainstream ammunition companies never produced ammo for the .32NAA. It was a boutique (CorBon) round. I am afraid it is bound for the ammo graveyard like the 9mm Federal and other limited platform rounds.

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ADP3

There's a pic of the Pug Shadow on the NAA site home page scroll. It comes with a .22LR cylinder which really appeals to me. I hope that it's not a limited run as my funds are limited right now.

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ADP3

Quote from: uncle_lee on April-22-20 04:04

Quote from: adp3 on April-21-20 23:04
The lock work would have to be re-engineered to safely accommodate a loaded round UNDER the hammer. A cross bolt safety might accomplish it. The safety notches on an NAA revolver cylinder or carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber are options to safely carry an NAA revolver. A single shot with no safety provision would invite accidents if the gun were dropped. The cross bolt safety would probably make it workable. Seems like one of the Charter Arms Company incarnations made a copy of the NAA mini that had a cross bolt safety, but I could easily be in error. It may have been called the "Dixie". I used to have a cheap Hawes copy of a Stevens Tip Off single shot .22. I shot the heck out of it and enjoyed every minute of it. Put an NAA single shot on a magnum sized frame with a 4" barrel and sights that were useable, and I'd definitely buy one. 

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ADP3

It is called a Mini Master.

Except a Mini Master is not a Single Shot.

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ADP3

The lock work would have to be re-engineered to safely accommodate a loaded round UNDER the hammer. A cross bolt safety might accomplish it. The safety notches on an NAA revolver cylinder or carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber are options to safely carry an NAA revolver. A single shot with no safety provision would invite accidents if the gun were dropped. The cross bolt safety would probably make it workable. Seems like one of the Charter Arms Company incarnations made a copy of the NAA mini that had a cross bolt safety, but I could easily be in error. It may have been called the "Dixie". I used to have a cheap Hawes copy of a Stevens Tip Off single shot .22. I shot the heck out of it and enjoyed every minute of it. Put an NAA single shot on a magnum sized frame with a 4" barrel and sights that were useable, and I'd definitely buy one. 

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ADP3

I've been wanting to dress up some of my NAA's with stag grips for a while. Now I won't have an excuse not to get them.  Thanks NAA!

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ADP3

Very nice inventory of NAA's. I wish the shops around here had that kind of selection.

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ADP3

When the adrenaline spike hits in a critical situation you are not going to notice how loud a .22 WMR is over a .22 LR. The additional flash and bang could work to your advantage against your opponent.

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ADP3

If I remember correctly, the problem was the recess in the barrel for the detent on the cylinder pin peening so that the detent would not hold under recoil. The fix would be a new barrel. Pugs, Black Widows, Mini-Masters, and Sheriffs have a sturdier system, and Sidewinders and Rangers are different designs.

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ADP3

Quote from: Chill Bill on March-07-20 15:03
Yeh, thanks guys.  I'll double check the mag screw to be sure it's tight, and I may try a Pearce extension. 

I haven't had a Guardian for several years now but as I remember it there is no mag "screw". It's a mag catch lock, a shaft with tab and slotted head. You won't be able to tighten it up and could bugger up the slot if you try to treat it like a screw. It removes by pressing on the mag catch with one hand and turning the catch with a screwdriver with the other hand. It's like a 1911 mag catch.

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ADP3

The heading is "NAA Products". That's pretty inclusive and it's worked for a long time. I see no need to change by adding a Guardian heading. How much do mini owners outnumber Guardian owners? 100 to 1, 500 to 1, more?

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ADP3

Quote from: barrytheprof on February-28-20 09:02
It seems that there are 32 revolvers out there in every variant of 32 except acp. It's harder to deal with a cartridge with no lip in a revolver.

I have a Taurus 380 revolver. It requires moon clips to keep the cartridges in position.

.25ACP, .32ACP, and .38 Super (also the old .38 Colt Auto) are semi-rimmed cartridges. They would do fine in a revolver without moon clips.

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ADP3

Quote from: Canoeal on February-26-20 09:02
A Bearcat is not a mini...post the two in the same picture.

How 'bout that?


The OP wanted a mini with an 8 to 10 shot capacity. Since it's not likely NAA will make one, the only way to get that capacity currently would be a  S&W model 317 or 63 for a factory 8-shot gun, or a custom gun on a Bearcat platform, particularly the Shopkeeper version. Alan Horton or Dave Clements could probably do the work.

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ADP3

The Ruger Bearcat is quite small. There are several gunsmiths that could build and time a custom cylinder with increased capacity. You also have a couple of 8-shot .22LR S&W J-frames as options.
NAA's minis size are one of their attributes.

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ADP3

I started off with a used Rocky Mountains Arms .22 Short in 1977. I've always had at least one ever since.

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ADP3

Shoot it first. The previous owner may have done you a favor. If it doesn't perform for you a return trip to NAA is your best bet. They will also inspect it and replace any parts that need it. There were some Ellett "Specials" at one point that had a tritium front sight. You could check with NAA and see if that's an option instead of the standard half-moon front if that idea appeals to you.

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ADP3

Out of a one inch barrel i expect that neither caliber has enough velocity for significant bullet expansion. The .22 WMR will give you deeper penetration and a larger temporary wound channel, and at contact range you would have more gases from muzzle blast enter the wound. The elevated muzzle blast and noise should also be a bit of a deterrent, especially at night. I do not see any advantage in using the .22 LR over the .22 WMR for defense. Practice with the LR cylinder if you wish but carry with the magnum cylinder. Speer Gold Dot, Hornady Critical Defense and Winchester 40 grain JHP would be my magnum choices and in that order. When I chronographed Velocitor out of one of my .1-1/8" 22 LR minis I got between 794 and 815 fps. The magnum ammo  probably adds about 100 fps to that out of the same barrel length.

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ADP3