Mini ammo: CCI's new round is old

TwoGunJayne · September-04-13 08:09

CCI is offering their "quiet .22" load chambered in .22 lr. At a claimed muzzle velocity of 710 fps, this load looks remarkably similar to their .22 short CB conical ball "cap" load.

The difference is that the .22 CB throws a 29 grain, while the "Quiet .22" shoots a 40 grain ball.

Neither load is very quiet out of a small pistol, but they're quieter than hyper velocity or any .22 mag out of the same gun. They can be extremely quiet from a long barrel bolt action, often quieter than powerful pellet rifles.

I've never had a problem with any CCI rimfire in any NAA mini, unless there was something seriously wrong with the gun. I've shot tons of the .22 CB short through a mini, I imagine that the Quiet .22 will work just as well. I've used the CB for small pest control, the 40 grain load should work as well or better.

Just another load that could be on the shelves, if we're lucky...

Summary: The CCI Quiet .22 cap load is for tiny pests, snakes, and quieter plinking. For SD, consider the Velocitor, Stinger, Maxi-mag, or TNT loads from CCI. The "segmented" loads have not demonstrated deep enough penetration unlike the solids or hollowpoints from CCI.

swolf · September-04-13 16:09

Thanks for the info. I was watching for the .22 Quiet before the big hoard began, and didn't find it. A friend of mine working on my .22 rifle had a box, but hadn't shot any yet. I should have grabbed a few rounds to compare. I noticed the 40 gr bullet, and that it was all the same size as cheap Federals. I had wondered if they would have used a short shell like Sniper Sub Sonics, but I guess the 40 gr bullet fits a regular shell OK. I like the CBs for plinking, but a bit noisy for my neighborhood. I have a brick or so left of Super Colibris that let me plink and not worry about sound or ricochet.

G50AE · September-05-13 00:09

Well if this new load is replacing an older load, it's probably because the new load is more "tactical" than the older load. Most of the older stuff just isn't as "tactical" as the newer and more "tactical" items.

OV-1D · September-05-13 02:09

Quote from: G50AE on September-05-13 00:09
Well if this new load is replacing an older load, it's probably because the new load is more "tactical" than the older load. Most of the older stuff just isn't as "tactical" as the newer and more "tactical" items.

+1 hahahaha

nastruck · September-05-13 05:09

I like "tactical" stuff!!!! $:-\$

Kentucky Kevin · September-05-13 08:09

I like the CB and carry it as well as Stinger and birdshot in a mint container in my posket, Happy that all will feed hrough my pistol and being able to quietly kill with a rifle

TwoGunJayne · September-05-13 13:09

CB cap loads (in the short case) and the Quiet .22 (in the lr case) are both mostly primer powered. It's pretty much the only way to insure "all burn" condition with the bullet leaving the barrel of a rifle. There is supposedly a tiny bit of powder, if that.

I think that's why "cap" rounds are so freaking LOUD in a short barrel revolver as opposed to QUIET in a solid rifle barrel... "all burn" hasn't happened yet once the projectile passes the cylinder gap.

I admit that I had my doubts at first about the Super Colibri cap rounds, but strangely it was the CCI cap rounds that won me over to this type of ammo. Both have worked just fine in minis (for me, at least.) I really started to take a liking to cap loads.

20 grain Colibri, 29 grain CCI, now the 40 grain CCI "new product." It almost makes me wonder if a major player is going to bring back the .22 lead "BB" cap. (Yes, I know BB is a shot size that isn't .22, but that's what they were called back in the day.)

With simpler manufacture and using less brass than even the .22 short case, it would seem that if lead roundball super short caps would sell like hotcakes and you could have 2-3x the number on a shelf with the right box design. Unfortunately, economy of scale is kicking our butts on that one.

I drool at the thought of flat packs of .22 lead round ball rim fire caps making a popular comeback from history's trash bin for .02 cents a shot.

Oh, look: http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/3-0301799
$38 + ship for 100 bb caps. Tell me again how using less materials costs more? Curse you, Economy of Scale. Curse you!

Umarex used to make them, but they seem to be unavailable anywhere.

.22 BB cap = 6 MM Flobert. It's about half the length of .22 short.

Pic from http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/tag/rws-bb-cap/
Left to right: the RWS BB cap, RWS CB cap, CCI CB Short, Aguila Super Colibri and CCI CB Long.

Cool link!

Dinadan · September-05-13 15:09

I like CCI CB Shorts. I have shot several hundred rounds out of my Minis. One weird thing about them: they vary in loudness. The CCI CBs are the only ammo I have shot where I notice that some rounds are a lot noisier than others.

If I see the CCI LR quiet loads I will give it a try. I have not seen CCI CB Shorts anywhere for a many months now.