S&W 632

[boone123]

Don't all fall at once. Some pretty big chunks the last 5 years or so. Maybe I am just standing in the wrong place. Maybe I just have my blue sky and freedoms mixed up. To me they are connected.
Think I will go shoot. That always helps sort things out.
Don't have a 32 cal.,  will at this time make 22 LR do... Can;t hear the sky fall with muffs on!

[cfsharry]

Boone,
Weather warmed enough here to get to the range today.  The Smith is a sweet shooter for sure.  Had been able to find a couple of boxes of H&R Magnums but no .327 Federal Magnums.  Red hawk had a point about cost.  Almost a buck a round. Ouch!  Found out another advantage of revolver over semi-auto.  Don't have to look for spent brass in snow. Saved the brass.  Regular .32 S&W and .32 S&W Long cartridges are still available in boxes of 50 for a reasonable price.  Recoil of the H&R Magnums was moderate but more noticeable than the longs.  If I can ever find them I'll let you know how the Federal's feel to the hand.  One thing is certain, if I am going to shoot the magnum calibers much I need two new sets of dies.  Then again, I'm not sure I see the need for the H&R round so probably just a set for the Federal.

[boone123]

Went back and had another look at that gun. Still Perfect! Nice lines. At almost a buck a shot I would shoot very slow. Reloading would make the difference. Do you cast your own bullets?  I do, but I have become pretty conservative with them. Sometimes having a gun I like and plenty of ammo for it, sort of satisfies my need even if I don't shoot it much.
Went out this afternoon and ran through a 325 bulk pack of 22s, double action,  and that was 20 bucks. If I shot many centerfires I would need to take a class in self control. OR go back to work.
The fact that I can just go out in the country and shoot, becomes spendy, even with 22s. Black dirt clods sticking out of the white snow for as far as I can shoot, just make me weak willed...

[heyjoe]

georgia arms makes cheaper 32 h&r and 32 long. you also should look online for .327

[cfsharry]

Have always bought my bullets ready made.  Lost enough brain cells over the years due to demon rum so didn't want to aggravate the problem by inhaling lead fumes.  What kind of range are you killing those dirt clods at?  Do you do any handgun hunting?
Joe,
Thanks for the tip. No rush on the Federals as with the worst of Winter just around the corner will not be getting in much range time. Will be in Spain the month of March so no shooting till April.

[heyjoe]

spain...nice....i think i would get into trouble there.....partial to dark haired sultry beauties

[cfsharry]

I hear a great way to make acquaintance with women fitting that description is by joining the Israeli army.

[boone123]

Harry..
On lead. I did cast bullets a lot. Much of the time without enough ventilation while I drank my pop, and ate my sandwich, shop full of smoke. Hands not washed. If it was wrong, I was doing it.  Early 90s got falling down weak. Sometimes I couldn't get any toothpaste out of a new tube of toothpast. Got around part time on my hands and knees and fell a lot. First thing they checked was for lead.There was NON>>>Most lead poison is from paint and such. Most of the water in a lot of cities comes off the main through lead pipes.  Many people live for years with a bullet in them. If a bird dies from eating lead its probably because it won't pass through its system. Copper bullets will most likely do the same thing. ANYWAY I WAS LEAD FREE. was an immune thing that took some time and a lot of treatment, but I beat it. So cast lead with no fear.
No I don't hunt. If I brought a deer home to eat, my wife who by the way likes guns, would not let me keep it on the place.
Seem like her folks tried to fool her when she was young into thinking deer meat was beef. She never got over that.
As for how far I shoot a handgun mostly double action, its anywhere from the fence line to as far as I can miss. I shoot mostly out of the pickup window because of the cold so a cowpie at a 100 to 150 yards I can hit pretty regular with a 617 Smith, or a K22 Smith.
A lot of the dirt clods I shot today were in the 30 to maybe 90 yard range. was shooting a Ruger sp101 in 22LR  that I just bought  5 days ago, and the double action trigger pull is pushing 15 lbs. I miss more with that that than I do with the S&Ws. I shoot from here to I almost can't see it, so missing happens. Its all about the fun and the challange.
I do shoot semi autos, but not so much anymore.     
I can't type or talk shorthand, so this got kind of long..

[G50AE]

On lead... Most lead poison is from paint and such. Most of the water in a lot of cities comes off the main through lead pipes.

Lead poison is usually a result of some combination of inhalation and ingestion, not mere skin contact.  Lead paint is fine if it remains intact.  If the paint is chipping or being sanded down into dust, then there becomes an issue.  As to the issue with pipes, lead plumbing fittings and solder can become an issue of water is left standing in contact with the lead, running water does not typically have enough contact time to be much of an issue.  Lead paint and lead plumbing solder are for the most part no longer being used due to these concerns.  Lead in drinking water is no longer a major issue.

Note that shower heads have an exemption from the lead free drinking water act.  This is due to the fact that a person does not typically drink from their shower head, and the water would be running, not standing anyway.  The EPA recently tried to reinterpret the law to cover fire hydrants  on the grounds that fire hydrants are occasionally used in emergencies as a source of drinking water.  Congress is set to pass an exemption for fire hydrants, to put a stop to this EPA foolishness.

As to airborne lead fumes from soldering, cast bullets or making lead miniatures, as long as you are doing the task in an area with adequate ventilation, I don't see much of an issue.  Back in 2005 if you wanted to get soldering equipment or supplies from Radioshack, you had a dickens of a time finding the items in stock, because the items had to be labeled to comply with a California law and rather than maintain two separate product lines, it was more feasible to hold up the product distribution so that all of the items could be labeled to comply with the California law.  What happens in California does not always stay in California, as you can see from this example.

[cfsharry]

Was kidding about the lead fumes. Just too lazy to cast my own.
How did you come down with the auto immune thing?  How long did you put up with it?  Must have been a trifle scary.  Glad you came out on top.
I have always enjoyed long range shooting and the one thing that is a deal breaker on a long term relationship between me and any gun is a bad trigger.  It is difficult enough to shoot a firearm consistently well with out throwing a rough, heavy, cantankerous trigger into the mix. I think that is why I am so impressed with this little Smith.  Really a great trigger right from the box.  At 24 oz it is no mini but lays perfectly in my hand and just feels right. Top quality piece and well worth the price.
Past my bedtime.

[boone123]

I never cast bullets with adequate ventilation because it was to cold out to bring in fresh air, and ate while I was casting.
The only person I have ever known that got lead poisoning was a little kid with already dumb parents and they let him chew up the green mini blinds in my house they rented. Blinds made in China had a lead paint or coloring on them. The blinds were never recalled. They put out the word you were to wash them. For my part, I think a lot of the rules put out by the EPA is BS...
If they really wanted to make things safer they would ban ethanol which through use in vehicles and in the production of, is pumping the air full of formaldahyde. Its been killing people for years, but money talks.

[G50AE]

For my part, I think a lot of the rules put out by the EPA is BS...
If they really wanted to make things safer they would ban ethanol which through use in vehicles and in the production of, is pumping the air full of formaldahyde.

Everything is a trade off.  Take the compound C₁₄H₉C_l5, better known as DDT.  One look at the chemical structure of this compound would tell anyone with any knowledge of chemistry that this is an organic toxin, two benzene rings, and five chlorine atoms in a hydrocarbon.  The use of this pesticide has saved a lot of lives from dieing from malaria and typhus.  Indiscriminate use of this compound, particularly in agriculture, has poisoned numerous species of bird, particularly peregrine falcons and bald eagles.

How does the production of ethanol produce formaldehyde?  If this were the case Jack Daniels distillery would be a super fund site.  Remember that ethanol is the exact same alcohol that cfsharry referred to as the demon rum.

This is the chemical process by which ethanol is produced,
C₆H₁₂O₆ → 2 C₂H₅OH+ 2 CO₂ + heat

And this is the chemical combustion process,
C₂H₅OH + 3 O₂ → 2 CO₂ + 3 H₂O + heat

Yes, you will note that CO₂ is produced in both the production and combustion.  In the production, the CO₂ gas could be trapped and fed into algae tanks or used in some other industrial application.  As to the combustion, hydrocarbons are just as bad if not worse.  Nowhere in either of these processes do I see formaldehyde, which BTW you misspelled.

[boone123]

G50ae... I misspelled formaldehyde. Glad I didn't know that before I went to bed, as it would have kept me awake all night.
Could be the effects of to much lead, or maybe because the letters on my keyboard are getting faint.
The high heat needed to produce ethanol produces formaldehyde and acetic acid that comes out the stack with the huge amounts of steam it produces. Vehicles with catalytic converters that use ethanol aleo emit formaldehyde. Heat. Stanford U warned Ca. sometime back that if they kept trucking ethanol in the the polluted areas, they would kill 200 more people a year.
Is there a huge plumb of steam over Jack Daniels distillery? Do they cook it out and end up with mash for cattle feed? I would be curious.
I live in a town that has an ethanol plant that has caused some people a lot of problems. I for one have bled through the skin on the back of my hands and delt with rash. The State Air and Water Quality Dept. admit there is a formaldehyde problem, but there are no pollution laws in this state to address that.  Ethanol money talks..

PS I have no knowledge of chemistry beyond melting lead, and if I had some, its LONG GONE!

[G50AE]

PS I have no knowledge of chemistry beyond melting lead, and if I had some, its LONG GONE!

Yes you have proven that quite handily.  You obviously know nothing about what you are speaking of.

[cfsharry]

g50ae,
You continue to epitomize the south end of a horse heading north. Whether this is by intent or, like Sheldon of "The Big Bang Theory", you just can't help being consistently off-putting I do not know. What I do know is that if your intent is to alienate as many forum members as possible by your often smarmy posts you are succeeding marvelously.
By the by, if you wish to appear to be a master of the English language you might consider.........about that of which you are speaking.
Sounds more better, don't it?

[ikoiko]

Aldehydes can be / are produced during fermentation by yeast. Not a primary path way, but a pathway none the less. Conditions and time during fermentation affect the products. Tightly controlled distillation temperatures/collecting of distillate all influence the end product.

I would hazard a guess that even with a "pure strain" of yeast, and "pure" C6H12O6 (whatever variety of sugar that may be) time, temperature, etc., will play a part in what sort of congeners are produced along with ethanol. Unless we are referring to the vacuume of a text book, and then, of course by all means.

Edit for spelling

[boone123]

g50 -=-And you do??   Plain and simple,ethanol is crap, is polluting the air,and is costing consumers millions of dollors in lost milage and repair bills, and should be outlawed. I have lived in the middle of the ethanol mess for 35 years and know of what I speak. Screw your chemistry.

S=y=c+ 3 tx9

[G50AE]

g50ae,
You continue to epitomize the south end of a horse heading north. Whether this is by intent or, like Sheldon of "The Big Bang Theory", you just can't help being consistently off-putting I do not know. What I do know is that if your intent is to alienate as many forum members as possible by your often smarmy posts you are succeeding marvelously.
By the by, if you wish to appear to be a master of the English language you might consider.........about that of which you are speaking.
Sounds more better, don't it?

For you information cfsharry, G50AE is spelled with capital letters.

[G50AE]

g50 -=-And you do??   Plain and simple,ethanol is crap, is polluting the air,and is costing consumers millions of dollors in lost milage and repair bills, and should be outlawed. I have lived in the middle of the ethanol mess for 35 years and know of what I speak. Screw your chemistry.

S=y=c+ 3 tx9

I ask you to back up your assertions with real science and you cannot do it.  You are sounding a lot like the gun control advocates who can't seem to get past the fact that while violent crime rates are at historic lows, gun ownership levels are continuing to increase.  You are using the same scare tactics that Feinstein et. al have been using for decades.

[boone123]

G50---
I am talking facts, and results. Where do you come up with this science crap?  You can hen scratch on here  all you want, but it doesen't change anything. Results are what count.  Pollution, and great costs to the consumer.

do you ever have little voices in your head?  maybe just tiny little ones.
little dreams about fienstein?

There was a big news thing all over the U,S. in all the major news papers and on the news about all the damage to the land, and to the water, and to the air,  caused by people in their  quest to keep ethonal on the market, so the govnment can keep pushing it on the consumer.    Hen scratch that.

[G50AE]

G50---
I am talking facts, and results. Where do you come up with this science crap?  You can hen scratch on here  all you want, but it doesen't change anything. Results are what count.

And where are these so called "facts" and "results" you speak of?

As to where I came up with this science, the chemical equations I posted earlier were taken from a Wikipedia article on ethanol.  Assuming that you are literate to read the article, and intelligent enough to understand the information, which BTW are pretty bold assumptions IMHO, I would be glad to post a link to the article, since you are probably unable to find this information yourself.  The equations can also be found in just about any high school chemistry or biology textbook.  Perhaps you did not make it that far in school and are unaware of or incapable of understanding things such as chemistry and biology.

[OV-1D]

 Unc_Lee I gotta borrow your happy face popcorn guys for this reply .

[G50AE]

Unc_Lee I gotta borrow your happy face popcorn guys for this reply .

http://www.concessionstands.com/POPCORN-MACHINES-SUPPLIES

They might be able to get you what you need OV-1D.

[heyjoe]

G50---
I am talking facts, and results. Where do you come up with this science crap?  You can hen scratch on here  all you want, but it doesen't change anything. Results are what count.

And where are these so called "facts" and "results" you speak of?

As to where I came up with this science, the chemical equations I posted earlier were taken from a Wikipedia article on ethanol.  Assuming that you are literate to read the article, and intelligent enough to understand the information, which BTW are pretty bold assumptions IMHO, I would be glad to post a link to the article, since you are probably unable to find this information yourself.  The equations can also be found in just about any high school chemistry or biology textbook.  Perhaps you did not make it that far in school and are unaware of or incapable of understanding things such as chemistry and biology.

G50AE cut the crap. enough! 

[PaducahMichael]

[boone123]

g50ae--
The cats out of the bag. You are a juvenile that is to young to even own a gun.You respond to posts to show your here, but they are not very deep and are about what would come out of a 15 year olds mouth. You faked it pretty  good for awhile, but you just got to over confident, and blew it.

Harry--
Covered a lot of ground this week, and looked at a LOT of handguns. None like yours. For me that is a good thing.
No new guns, and in fact I gave one away to one of my sons. It was going to be his someday anyway, and it made his Chrisrmas.
To top it off, his wife bought him a new motorcycle. I wish I would have married a pharmacist.
When I grew up, my role-models were farmers, hay haulers, and beer drinkers. No hope.

[cfsharry]

Boone,
What did you gift your son? 
I gave my wife's nephew my Stevens double barrel .410.  He lives to hunt and fish and we were talking after Christmas dinner about his wanting to buy a double .410 for rabbit and dove hunting but he could not afford one.  Better the gun gets used by someone who appreciates it than to sit in my gun cabinet. My only proviso was that if he no longer had use for it he could not sell it, he had to find someone who would appreciate and use it and then gift them the gun.
The more I handle and dry fire the little Smith the more I like it. Just feels right. Here are a few more pics.

[OV-1D]

 Sure looks comfortable in the hand Harry .

[boone123]

Harry...
I am not into shotguns, but I sure could live with a 410 double just to have it to hold and feel of. I have a couple of old double barreled 12 ga. that were my father in laws. I like them hanging there where I can see them.

The gun my son now has is a 2nd gen. Colt SA in 38 speciel. When he was about 15 years old, we were hunting jack rabbits when they were still worth something, and he popped a running jack with that gun. I said the first thing that came to my mind, you can have that gun someday. Its been a few years but I never felt the gun was mine anymore anyway, and there was no use me keeping it till I died, so its where it belongs.

I really like your S&W. I have owned and shot a few guns, but up till about 5 years ago I wasn"t much into Smiths. Thats what I shoot the most anymore, both J-frams and K-frames. Nice triggers and they just seem to fit. I have been shooting a 22 cal. Ruger SP101 for the last couple of weeks, but its not a S&W. Just a new challenge for awhile. If I could only keep  2 or 3 handguns, one would be an older J-frame 38 speciel model 60.

[G50AE]

G50AE cut the crap. enough!

(OPENS ENVELOPE)

And the award, issued with Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster device, for being even less civil than OV-1D goes to heyjoe.  Please come up on stage and give a brief acceptance speech and pick up your CCW Badge on the table next to the podium.