Guardian .32 ACP 10 round Magazine Pic

[firewire]

Well since I could never find a picture of the 10 round magazine actually in a Guardian .32 ACP I thought what the heck and bought one.

   

   The Guardian feels amazing in the hand with that 10rd mag in it!  I hope it shoots as good as it feels!  I found I don't need the pinky ext on the 10 rd.

   

   So here is a picture of what it looks like in the Guardian .32 ACP and next to the other mag types.  I also upgraded the grip screw to a SS type.

   

   NAA Part Number: MZ-32-EXT $30

   

   

   

[louiethelump]

Now you are all set for Bison hunting on the great plains...............    

   

   

   It makes it a bit big for pocket carry doesn't it?

   

   May be a good idea for a house gun or maybe a mag to throw in it when you get home and unpocket it and put it in the night stand.  11 rounds instead of the 7.

   

   Now that I think about it that way, it seems like it might be a good idea.  

   

   Let us know how it works.

   

   Thanks for posting!

   

   Louie

[firewire]

Lol, yes!  Heck the grip is longer than the slide now!  I can only imagine what it would look like in my pocket holster on order.  

   

   I only bought the 10 rounder for range time comfort and convenience.

[louiethelump]

I think you are going to like the gun as long as you don't have an issue with the DA trigger pull.  Some do.  I don't mind it and like the little guns.  I don't have one of the long magazines but I do have several extra magazines.  I don't like the finger rest bottoms and prefer the plain.  I am intrigued by that long magazine.  I may have to watch for one of those and try it out.

[firewire]

Thanks for the positive encouragement!  I don't mind the DA trigger.  It's just like a revolver trigger in a semi-auto.  

   

   I handled my friend's S&W Bodyguard 380 Semi-Auto and the trigger pull on that DAO is 9lbs 10oz.  I was quite surprised because it was so long and heavy and a plastic trigger.  I MUCH prefer the NAA Guardian Steel to that fantastic plastic.

[louiethelump]

+1 on that!  I like the all metal NAA product as well.

   

   Like you, to me it is just like a flat small DA revolver.  I can see and feel the hammer and know it is safe and what it takes to shoot it.

[firewire]

Well, 10 round magazine didn't work so good.  Any idea on how to disassemble one?  

   

   When I load 10 rounds the follower stays "stuck" at the bottom and no longer provides spring tension and then of course won't feed.

   

   I can put in up to 8 rounds, but any more it locks up.  

   

   

   

   

[firewire]

Forgot to mention it litereally took a flat head screwdriver poking around down the mag to finally get it to pop back up.  I tried it numerous times with the same result.

   

   I was using both American Eagle FMJ Ball ammo and Winchester ball.  71 grain on both.

[louiethelump]

Turn the magazine over and look for a release to depress to the take the bottom and slide it off toward the front.  I think you will find it is a standard length magazine with an extension on the bottom.  

   Check the bottom extension for burrs that are causing the follower to hang up and clear them out.  If this does not work, send it back for another one.

[firewire]

Thanks Louie, there is an extra piece that slides to lock the regular 6 round steel body to the extention.  That is once you get the spring released through the base plate as you described.

   

   You are absolutely correct, the mag body does not go all the way down and that is exactly this mags problem.

   

   The mag is smaller than the extention by only a fraction of a mm, but it is in the wrong direction.  I can't grind down anything because that is the problem.  I need to add mass the extension.  The necessary tolerance is so precise that I may just ask to swap out for a 6 rounder as I honestly think you would have to match a steel mag body to the base for reliability.  Meaning I could potentially go through multiples to find one that works right.

   

   Feels good in the hand, but I think I will opt for the original 6 rounder.  If the mag body went all the way down.  I have no doubt it would work fine or if the extention was made a tad smaller it would work as well.  You compound the fact that the mag can slide a tiny tiny bit in the plastice base and any work that was done could potentially be for nothing as that tiny movement at the wrong moment could catch.

[firewire]

Some pics to better explain.

   

   

   

   

[firewire]

A few more

   

   

   

   

[RogueTS1]

Sounds like too much work for too little reward and more than likely failure.

[Classanr]

Well, 10 round magazine didn't work so good.  Any idea on how to disassemble one?   
   When I load 10 rounds the follower stays "stuck" at the bottom and no longer provides spring tension and then of course won't feed.
   I can put in up to 8 rounds, but any more it locks up.   

I have been working with my two "10-round extensions".  I have puzzled this out quite deliberately and can categorically state that neither the follower, nor the spring, get stuck when 10 rounds are loaded.

It is the rim of round #10 at the bottom of the mag well that catches on the rear of the steel 6-round mag.  At first I thought the fault was the result of the tiny gap fore-aft that lets the steel mag slide in the plastic extender.  But as stated here, the plastic well is actually a tad too big.    Now I am considering epoxying-in a shim to the back of the plastic mag well so the case will not seat itself too far back and sit in the lower mag extension rear-ward of the steel mag housing.

In my mags, 9 rounds work just fine.  It's the 10th that forces the lowest case all the way below the edge of the steel.  Immediate rim-lock, even with the mag out of the pistol.

My solution, before doing any fancy work, is to carry 6+1 in the gun, 6 in a spare mag, putting the gun and 13 rounds on my left hip.  I use the finger extension on both those mags.  On my right hip are two "NAA-9-round" mags.  That gives me (a) 31 rounds to carry, (b) a finger on the bottom of each mag for panic extraction, location, proper orientation, and insertion with any kind of gloves on, and (c) much better gun control while shooting.

For the nominal loss of 2 loaded rounds, I'm quite happy with the minor cost to upgrade two of my extra mags.  This lets me carry 18 in two extra mags, instead of 18 in three extra mags.

When I have nothing else to do but twiddle my thumbs for a day, I will attend to shimming the mag extensions so I can increase my carry a whopping 6% with those essential 2 extra rounds.

[RogueTS1]

Classic case of having to download by one or two often seen in certain other guns.

[Kevin55]

The common wisdom is "max capacity, minus one" for maximum reliability.
I'd load a Glock mag full, but not many aftermarket mags.

If the last round is much harder to insert or the mag bulges, you are over the real capacity.

There were problems with early KelTec 32 pistols due to the tapered case.  You might want to Google the fix.

[I]

Where is G50? A tactical thread that is so old it's post its pics and has been necrobumped!

Holy sludge dredging, batman! I think someone has unearthed...

What could it be?

[Classanr]

Yeah, I thought about not posting into this thread, but so little has been mentioned about the 32 mag extensions, which are a real bargain (two extension for less than the price of a new 6-rounder) that I wanted to get a "solution" and proper technical explanation posted for the lady (or gentleman) who lurks and wonders why her/his 10-rounder hangs, but not if s/he loads only 9.
I think we've accomplished that, and can let this rest for another half-year.

[G50AE]

The common wisdom is "max capacity, minus one" for maximum reliability.
I'd load a Glock mag full, but not many aftermarket mags.

If you are "tactical" enough to be using a Glock, then you should know enough not to use an after market magazine with it.  Using an aftermarket magazine with a Glock is like putting retreaded tires on a Dodge Viper.

[TwoGunJayne]

Hmm. I'd forgotten about these mags. I need to get some.