Sidewinder MSLP

Started by 45flint, April-13-12 11:04

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45flint

Seems to be $349.  To me that is great but as I have talked about before.   If they can make the sidewinder for that I can't see why they can't make the Ranger for a $100 more and sell it as well?    Or even $150 more.   They would sell for $500.  Given they are backloged anyway with normal production maybe they just don't need guns that are more complicated and take up time that could go to the productions of old profitable guns.

shadowofleaves

I'd like to see them bring back the Ranger back to the product line too. I'd buy a couple at $500 each.

harkamsu

You have to think from an engineering stand point. The Ranger is way more intricate.

grayelky

As much as the BT is in demand, even before the skyrocketing prices, IF NAA COULD sell them for $500.00, and make a profit, they would be in production. My hope is while making the Sidewinder, they discover a way to be able to bring the BT back.
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heyjoe

probably due to the amount of work that has to be done by hand rather than by machine on the Ranger.
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scout

I would really appreciate a technical explanation or the difficulties that killed the Ranger. I do not see how casting or CNC machining could not produce it to a good enough price point.  

   Not that I could do anything about it, but it is frustrating to know it can be done but won't be.

louiethelump

You don't think that if it could be done at the price point they would be doing it?

   

   "it is frustrating to know it can be done but won't be"

   

   this almost sounds like you suspect some other motive.  Is there something you know that you could share with the rest of us?

   

   Welcome to the forum!  If ya got info, spill it!

   

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CavScout

It might be worth reading Sandy's explanation again:

   

   http://northamericanarms.com/soaparc2011-2020#2011-03">http://northamericanarms.com/soaparc2011-2020#2011-03

   

   I recently retired as a Machinist (manual)/CNC Operator/Programmer... making small parts, most with a +/- 0.005" tolerance (a Post-It Note is 0.004"). That's easily achievable on modern CNC equipment. After machining there are burrs to contend with. Not to mention variances in machine temperature, tool wear, etc. while running.

   

   When fitting jointed parts together, tolerances shrink to tenths (0.0001") in order to provide the same tension in multiple production units. Just compare a Smith & Wesson top break hinge to any of the many cheap copies by other manufacturers. Not to mention fitting of sideplates and cranes on more modern S&W double actions.

   

   Tightening the tolerance increases the production cost exponentially.
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