Safety trigger

Started by barrytheprof, May-16-19 20:05

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barrytheprof

I don't understand the what the safety trigger does on guns like the Ruger LCP II and others. It looks to me that if you can accidentally pull one trigger, you can accidentally pull both of them. What am I missing?

bill_deshivs

You're not missing anything.
You're seeing something that most don't.

Canoeal

Yep, agreed. A "feel good" thing, not a "real good" thing...
"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

Ruger

Right with ya!   . . Best safety for guns is in your head.
Never Take anything Too Seriously . .Just Enough Will Do.

bearcatter

Those trigger safeties look to be small, fragile parts. The pivot pin could come out, other parts bend or break? I don't and won't own a gun with one, especially for defense.

The first trigger blade safety was on Iver Johnson's Safety Automatic Hammerless, Second Model. It was made 1897-1908. Kind of a misnomer, it was a DAO revolver; the safety was "automatic". So Glock was not the first, but started the "me, too" trend of every gun maker copying it.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

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Canoeal

funny neither of my two guns have safety triggers or any other sort of manual safety, But hey, I am a revolver guy.
"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

bearcatter

Quote from: Canoeal on May-17-19 10:05
funny neither of my two guns have safety triggers or any other sort of manual safety, But hey, I am a revolver guy.

Pretty odd that the first trigger safety was on a revolver, a DAO one at that. The Iver Johnson had an enclosed hammer. They wanted to be absolutely sure that one never went off by mistake.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

Warthog

Sort of why I prefer guns with safety switches. I can switch them off and fire as fast as any "safety trigger" can.
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-Albert Einstein

Boisesteve

Exactly right, Barry.  Cooper's Four Rules of firearm safety are enough.

I also am a revolver guy Al, North American and Ruger single actions. Inherently safe when carried in the designed manner, they are inert objects until the deliberate act of cocking the hammer. That's my safety switch.
Steve in Boise

Canoeal

#9
Exactly. The Bw you know, the Charter a transfer bar safety. Nothing to deal with, when needing to focus on shooting and hitting the target...
"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

RICKS PLACE

Barry, you only missed the propaganda the industry is pushing.  Since Bill Clinton pushed S&W into putting a key hole in the side of their guns, others have joined some kind of club to ruin otherwise fine weapons.  Ruger, in some models (LC380) have joined the key lock crowd, Glock always had a gimmick for  a "safety", which it is not.  I do not own nor will I buy a gun with these attempts to make a politically correct firearm.  If all gun owners would write the makers and tell them they bought a different make firearm due to these attempts to make the liberal politicians happy, they might go back to tried and proven methods.

barrytheprof

Thanks all, this puts it in perspective.

In between the food porn and the song lyrics, there's real useful information here.  :D

pietro

Quote from: RICKS PLACE on May-18-19 16:05

Ruger, in some models (LC380) have joined the key lock crowd



Actually, with the 2005 introduction of the .357 50th Anniversary New Model Blackhawk, Ruger installed a key-operated safety on all their CF single-action revolvers that was hidden inside the grip frame, and required the buy to drill an access hole for the key through one of the grip panels if they desired to make the safety operable.

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Be careful if you follow the masses - Sometimes the M is silent

RICKS PLACE

Yeah Pietro, i bought a new Vaquero in that time zone, didn't know it had the key lock till I got it home  and saw the keys in the box. DUH!  I took it back. I thought Ruger had learned it's lesson and recently went to get me a LC380. DUH again!  Any key lock is a deal breaker for me.   I consider a key lock the perfect solution to a problem that doesn't exist.  i Don't need a lock on a gun I am packing and all my other guns are in a BIG safe.