Bond Arms Derringers

[rattlehead]

Anyone else here own one of these little gems? I just picked up a Patriot with the 45 LC/410 barrel. At 20oz and a fairly bulky size (for a derringer), I know its probably not the most practical thing in the world for carry.. I guess I just have a soft spot for small, well built stainless handguns. Should be great for when I'm out metal detecting in the woods to ward off snakes or wild dogs. Thats how I'm going to justify the purchase anyway. Comes with a neat horizontal leather holster too. Now I just need to pick up some extra barrels in different calibers.

[m82a1pa]

I've got one as well...

[smokeless joe]

How's that feel when you pull the trigger?

[riadat]

My excam t 38 derringer weights 14.8 ounces in my pocket, loaded, including the sm1 sticky holster.

Bond arms derringers are too heavy for what they do, but they do what they do very well.

They need to make an aluminum framed version with a steel barrel and they might have me buying one.

[OV-1D]

  I've wanted one of these beasts for years now just can take the jump , having interchangeable barrels is a real good deal with these monsters . Love the grips as well .

[top dog]

Rattlehead,

Just came back from a week in the hospital  (foot surgery) so am catching up on this stuff.

The Bond Arms derringers are the "Rolls Royces" of derringers. Built like a bank vault and Swiss watch at the same time.

I have a Texas Defender and over the years acquired 9 different bbls for it.

Customer service is just like NAA,second to none.  Nicest folks to deal with.

The key to the trigger pull is not straight back but down and back.

Let us know how that new puppy shoots.

                                                                                    Top Dog

[rattlehead]

Thanks for the replies guys.

m82a1,
Yours looks nice! Love the leather too!

smokeless joe,
The downward motion is a little strange at first, but not so bad once you get used to it.

top dog,
Yep, I've heard good things about Bond Arms customer service. One of the reasons I decided to pick one up. Going to the range soon and will post the results.

[riadat]

Well look here.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/bond-arms-aluminum-derringer-nra-2019/

Guess a bond is in my future.

[heyjoe]

your post made me think about how many barrels i have for mine. only 7

Rattlehead,

Just came back from a week in the hospital  (foot surgery) so am catching up on this stuff.

The Bond Arms derringers are the "Rolls Royces" of derringers. Built like a bank vault and Swiss watch at the same time.

I have a Texas Defender and over the years acquired 9 different bbls for it.

Customer service is just like NAA,second to none.  Nicest folks to deal with.

The key to the trigger pull is not straight back but down and back.

Let us know how that new puppy shoots.

                                                                                    Top Dog

[rattlehead]

Well look here.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/bond-arms-aluminum-derringer-nra-2019/

Guess a bond is in my future.

That's pretty neat. I'd like to have one in that thickness but made from all stainless.

[linux_author]

no mention in the product release, but i guess the assumption is that this new line of derringers uses steel sleeves for the barrels?

and i really, really wish that NAA would bring out a .32ACP revolver - i'd buy several

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

[heyjoe]

no mention in the product release, but i guess the assumption is that this new line of derringers uses steel sleeves for the barrels?

and i really, really wish that NAA would bring out a .32ACP revolver - i'd buy several

willie
on the Gulf of Mexico

welcome to the 32 ACP lobbying club. Uncle Lee President.

[bearcatter]

I'm for anything that boosts the popularity and sales of .32 ACP ammo. I think it's a greatly under appreciated cartridge. The "bigger is better" mentality has conned everyone into buying cannons they don't need, and .32 gets it worst. .22 would, but it's a plinking and target caliber, too; .32 isn't.

[Ruger]

Any caliber is a good caliber.  A hole where it doesn't belong is never good.  Plus, any caliber keeps me from having to learn karate. 

[Uncle_Lee]

.32 acp mini.....

[smokeless joe]

.32 acp mini.....

The squeaky gear gets the grease Unc. You keep asking and maybe one day you'll get your wish 😉

[Uncle_Lee]

.32 acp mini.....

The squeaky gear gets the grease Unc. You keep asking and maybe one day you'll get your wish 😉

The idea has officially turned down.
I just post it for a chuckle.

[smokeless joe]

.32 acp mini.....

The squeaky gear gets the grease Unc. You keep asking and maybe one day you'll get your wish 😉

The idea has officially turned down.
I just post it for a chuckle.

Gotcha

[theysayimnotme]

The problem with the .32 mini was that it wasn't a mini. The Earl was a Rube Goldberg design.  What was/is needed is KISS. Keep it simple stupid. A mini scaled up to .32 ACP.
As far as the Bond Derringer I have a hard time finding a use for a crew served derringer.

[RICKS PLACE]

I had a Bond Arms in .357.  Probably one of the best finished out handguns I ever saw.  Couldn't hit the side of a barn at 7 yards with it. (Maybe the roof if I was inside the barn) But then, I have never found a derringer I could hit with. They are seemingly accurate enough for Cowboy Action Shooting.  Terrible trigger.  Gun too heavy.  Could get off 6 shots, note I said SIX shots faster than I could with my B/W.  Very fast method of reloading with practice, no doubt with practice, three times as fast as a standard mini.  Can choose several center fire calibers of ammo.  It is indeed, the Rolls Royce of the derringers and the price for the better finished ones prove it.  Too many other guns on the market to consider another one.

[riadat]

I owned a bond derringer and found it pretty accurate.

The main thing with derringers seems to be if you are within 10 feet, shoot for center of body.  At 20 feet, shoot for the stomach.  At 30 feet, run.

You can get more precise if you bother to figure out which barrel will fire first and adjust your aim accordingly but chest close, stomach further, and forget it will carry you a long ways.

[OV-1D]

  I'm with you Riadat , with the wrong gun shoot and run as long as you have some good distance between the issues ..

[rattlehead]

I took it out yesterday to put a few rounds on target.. Or I should rephrase that and say near the target. I'm not very accurate with this particular gun even at short ranges. I guess practice will help but I wasn't impressed with the first few shots. Trigger pull is more awkward than I originally thought based on dry firing. I fired a couple of Winchester PDX-1s and completely missed a soda bottle that was no more than 8 ft away. Fired some 45 LC and it seemed to be hitting low. From what I read, the bottom barrel is supposed to be aligned with the sights and the top barrel will shoot a little high. I'm pretty sure its my trigger pull that's throwing the rounds off target. Anyway, not sure if I'll keep this derringer or not. I may give it one more try at the range and see what happens.

[OV-1D]

 Good honest talk there Rattlehead .

[Dinadan]

Interesting thread. I have never owned or even shot a Bond Arms Derringer. The variety of calibers and barrel lengths available do make it an intriguing little gun.


Rattlehead's and Rick's comments about accuracy are not too encouraging, but at least Riadat found it acceptable.  Personally, if I bought another derringer I would go for an old west look like the American Derringers, choosing form over function. Still, the Bond is a very cool looking gun.

[top dog]

Rattlehead,
Sorry to hear that your first range session did not go too well.

The Bond trigger is "unique" and gets some getting used to. Again,it is DOWN towards the trigger guard.

Close range,forget the sights and try the "finger point" technique. Works for me.

I am certain,that with some more range sessions,all will work out OK.

                                                                                    Wayne

[smokeless joe]

As heavy as they are I think I would wait to see the lighter version before I would consider getting one. It's the interchangeable barrels that I find appealing. Plus I've got other financial priorities tugging at my wallet right now.

[rattlehead]

Rattlehead,
Sorry to hear that your first range session did not go too well.

The Bond trigger is "unique" and gets some getting used to. Again,it is DOWN towards the trigger guard.

Yeah its definitely me, not the gun. I think the fact that I'm pulling down on the trigger is whats making my shots go low. As I pull down on the trigger its pulling the whole gun downward. Just need some practice with it I guess.

Thanks again for the comments guys.

[lefty dude]

My bond, The Snake Slayer 45colt/3"410. I also have a 22 mag barrel. As shown, the trigger guard is off. This is my preference for a better two hand hold, and a double trigger pull.

When you squeeze off a 3" 410, you know you have a Handful of Bond !!!!!

What's fun is shooting my 410 Brass shells with Black Powder and #4 buck shot. Hand loads  BTW.

[top dog]

Leftydude,
I will add a double amen to that when shooting the 3"  410 shells out of the Bond.

You definitely know that the bull pooped in the buckwheat when you touch one of them off.

Not uncomfortable,just.......................interesting.

Nice engraving on that piece.

                                                                      Top Dog

                                                                                     

[lefty dude]

Engraving was done over several Years, by "The Gun Engraver" Jim Downing. This kept the cost do-able, $100.00 at a time.

[Dinadan]

Lefty, that is a very nice looking Bond derringer. I like the old west look, and with the trigger guard off and the engraving, that is old west enough to get my juices flowing!

[smokeless joe]

So is the trigger guard removable or has the design changed over the years. I like the look of both.

[lefty dude]

One screw and the trigger guard is removed.

[smokeless joe]

One screw and the trigger guard is removed.

Cool