Bond Arms Derringers

Started by rattlehead, July-15-19 13:07

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Gog

That engraving rocks. Making me want to break my Bond out. Been a while.

Texduk3

thanks for the read on Bond Arms, 
"God and Guns"
"Lets Go Brandon"

Rick_Jorgenson

Quote from: top dog on July-24-19 04:07
Leftydude,
I will add a double amen to that when shooting the 3"  410 shells out of the Bond.

You definitely know that the bull pooped in the buckwheat when you touch one of them off.

Not uncomfortable,just.......................interesting.

Nice engraving on that piece.

                                                                      Top Dog

                                                                                   

"You definitely know that the bull pooped in the buckwheat when you touch one of them off"

I am using "that one" ALL DAY LONG TODAY!  I don't care what I'm talking to people about!

Hope you don't mind Top Dog.  I'll credit you if I get any awards! lol!!
Rick Jorgenson

KEN AR

I'll agree on the 3" shells.  I had a Snake Slayer and it would not bite you but it did chew on your hand.
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top dog

Rick,
No sweat you can use that as often as you like. Only I usually don't use the word  poop!!!

When on the annual quail hunt in Georgia,I wear the Bon in the Bond driving holster for the possibility of a rattlesnake (I call them buzzworms) encounter. I like the larger amount of shot in the 410 shell (#7.5) for a better insurance of a hit.

I usually practice quickly putting the double barreled shotgun in my left hand and drawing the  Bond with the right ,cocking and firing it single handed.

                                                                                             Top Dog

jstert

has anyone tried a bond arms derringer using 327/32 or 22wmr barrels?

heyjoe

Quote from: jstert on December-28-19 10:12
has anyone tried a bond arms derringer using 327/32 or 22wmr barrels?
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i have 327, 32 h&r magnum,32 long
It's too bad that our friends cant be here with us today

lefty dude

yes; I have a 22 mag barrel, it tends to key hole with some ammo. I would rather have the 22LR barrel. My mag barrel is 2 1/2 ".

theysayimnotme

Quote from: top dog on August-06-19 06:08
Rick,
No sweat you can use that as often as you like. Only I usually don't use the word  poop!!!

When on the annual quail hunt in Georgia,I wear the Bon in the Bond driving holster for the possibility of a rattlesnake (I call them buzzworms) encounter. I like the larger amount of shot in the 410 shell (#7.5) for a better insurance of a hit.

I usually practice quickly putting the double barreled shotgun in my left hand and drawing the  Bond with the right ,cocking and firing it single handed.

                                                                                             Top Dog

Why not just use the shotgun?

OMCHamlin

I have several, and the Bond Cowboy .410 is NOT the hardest kicking of the bunch, that honor belongs to my American Derringer M-10 (lightweight frame) .45 acp, now THAT hurts to shoot! The Bond is a pussycat in comparison. I also have an FIE D38 in (duh) .38 Spl, with the chambers reamed to accept CCI Snake Shot loads (it might mean it will also chamber a .357, something I would never try!), and of course, and older High Standard satin nickle D101 in 22 WMR.

redhawk4

I have a Snake Slayer with the 45/410 4.25" barrel. As I was explaining to someone the other day who was talking about shooting snakes, you'd have to be fairly upset with the snake, or in fear of impending death, before you'd want to fire at it with a 3" 410, the recoil is fairly lively and not awfully comfortable. I've only fired buck shot in mine so perhaps with bird shot it would be a little more forgiving although when I tried 2 1/2" 000 buck I didn't notice much difference to the same Federal 000 in 3". 45 Colt isn't too bad in comparison and I also got a 45acp barrel, which while stout in recoil was not as bad as I thought. In most ways they make little practical sense at all, but the look and feel is such, that your emotions can certainly rule your head with them and I find its a gun I like to get out of the safe and "play" with regularly just because it is so engaging and just has an appeal you can't put in to words. Generally if I carry it, it's in my truck in the door pocket cup holder where it can be accessed quickly, should getting to my pocket carry be difficult. While only two shots anyone untoward approaching your window should get the message to back off one way or the other.
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top dog

Theysay,
With the dogs nearby,I would use the Bond in 410 (2.5 inch) for any venomous snakes and not use the 12 gauge.

Yes, the 410 (3 inch) is indeed a handful but certainly will get the job done.  Some friends of mine use the 45 Colt shot made by CCI and have good results.

Venomous snakes are very few and far between in the northeast but coydogs (cross between coyotes and dogs or wolves) are in abundance so my carry load is the 410 Hornady Critical Defense.

Last year,more than six people were attacked by coyotes while walking their dogs. Three dogs were killed and three seriously injured.

I have several Bond holsters but seem to use the pocket one the most. And always a PUG....just in case.

For the reload,I carry 45 Colt (Speer Gold Dot) in a Tuff Products strip.

                                                                                                                   Top Dog

RogueTS1

When it comes to the protection detail for my little buddies (the ratters) I insist the detail be armed with the more serious tools.  ::)
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

redhawk4

Quote from: top dog on March-03-20 06:03
Theysay,
With the dogs nearby,I would use the Bond in 410 (2.5 inch) for any venomous snakes and not use the 12 gauge.

Yes, the 410 (3 inch) is indeed a handful but certainly will get the job done.  Some friends of mine use the 45 Colt shot made by CCI and have good results.

Venomous snakes are very few and far between in the northeast but coydogs (cross between coyotes and dogs or wolves) are in abundance so my carry load is the 410 Hornady Critical Defense.

Last year,more than six people were attacked by coyotes while walking their dogs. Three dogs were killed and three seriously injured.

I have several Bond holsters but seem to use the pocket one the most. And always a PUG....just in case.

For the reload,I carry 45 Colt (Speer Gold Dot) in a Tuff Products strip.

                                                                                                                   Top Dog



I can see the .410 option being good for fierce dogs/coyotes etc. I don't carry my Bond a lot, but am considering it for that very purpose, there are a couple of unpleasant dogs that frequent the area where I walk for exercise and although so far they back down when they see I'm not a victim, recently my attitude has gone towards wondering why I should have to get involved in a "fight" with theses two if it comes to it, when a gun could solve the issue with less teeth marks. I've been carrying one of my pocket pistols for lightness, but if I could find the correct holster for comfort while walking fast, the Bond would definitely be a better option with 000 buck, while the spread isn't huge at close range you still have a better chance of success on a quickly moving target than with a mini or small pocket pistol.
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top dog

Rogue,

You are definitely well prepared with that outfit!!!!!

Redhawk,

I have several Bond holsters for my derringer. The one that see the most use is probably the pocket holster then the IWB and the driving holster.

Basically,with any of them,I seem to forget that I have the piece on me.

                                                                                                                Top Dog

jstert

#50
i have too much coin tied up in bond arms derringers.  my random thoughts.  a niche, fourth, not first, gun for that crazy money, plus some, that you were saving to blow on a casino slot machine, maybe.  used models on gb.com are likely good values as they are built like a brick outhouse but shot little.  only get gen2 models, i.e. indented trigger and wider hammer spur.  ditch the pretty wood grips, "4" calibers need large rubber grip, others can work with small rubber grip.  if you start with the 410/45lc model stick to handgun specific shotgun or cowboy loads, then add another barrel in your favorite centerfire handgun caliber.  forget the cheaper, lesser finished rowdy/roughneck models, they are a disaster, and burn b.a.'s carefully groomed reputation, don't ask me how i know.  remove the trigger guard to ccw when wearing gloves.  b.a. derringers can be more accurate and less punishing than you guess.  your unborn grandchildren can pass them on to their children fully functional. 

zack114a

Alot of people underestimate the power of a derringer in terms of self defense it seems in these days of cheap, small caliber semi autos, but the sheer durability of a derringer makes it worthwhile to me. It's a gun that, once you have it, you'll never need another. It'll outlast a lifetime as long as it's not a cheaply built, "Saturday Night Special" style derringer like the first one I ever bought. Even then, it still did what it was intended to do.

redhawk4

Quote from: top dog on March-06-20 06:03
Rogue,

You are definitely well prepared with that outfit!!!!!

Redhawk,

I have several Bond holsters for my derringer. The one that see the most use is probably the pocket holster then the IWB and the driving holster.

Basically,with any of them,I seem to forget that I have the piece on me.

                                                                                                                Top Dog

I've been looking at a driving holster, the way the gun sits horizontally seems it would be comfortable and not restrict movement. Against an angry pitbull I feel 2 rounds of 3" 410 000 Buck at close range will solve the problem and provide me with more confidence than a 22 would in the same scenario. The only problem for me is the driving holster like everything "Bond Arms" is not cheap. The only thing cheap about a Bond Arms, is the owner (in my case, at least :))
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redhawk4

Quote from: zack114a on April-05-20 22:04
A lot of people underestimate the power of a derringer in terms of self defense it seems in these days of cheap, small caliber semi autos, but the sheer durability of a derringer makes it worthwhile to me. It's a gun that, once you have it, you'll never need another. It'll outlast a lifetime as long as it's not a cheaply built, "Saturday Night Special" style derringer like the first one I ever bought. Even then, it still did what it was intended to do.

There's not much danger of wearing a Bond Arms Derringer out, firstly because they are built like a tank and secondly if you caliber choices are 45 Colt/410 and 45 acp like me, you will never put many rounds down range as the recoil ensures it's not one of my favorite guns to shoot for pleasure :)

While a 2 round Derringer is not the best overall SD handgun, I'm sure in most instances anyone seeing those big barrels pointed at them is going to need a big incentive to persist in whatever nefarious activity they had planned.
Old Enough to Know Better - Still Too Young to Care

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Adk.IBO

#54
My Bond Arms and everything related to it: (upside down-? Right side up when you click on the picture) .357/.38 and .45LC/.410 barrels

Luke 23:34

RogueTS1

Not bad Adk; not bad at all.  ;)
Wounds of the flesh a surgeon's skill may heal but wounded honour is only cured with steel.

Adk.IBO

Luke 23:34

Terry treefish

I've owned my Bond Arms 2 1/2" 410/45 Texas Defender, for approx 10 years.  It's one of two guns I own that I feel I shall never part with.  The other is my G/32acp.

I've only shot it around 50 times, as it's not for target practice, and never misfired.  I've cc it many times, in the winter.  Even when I cc another weapon, the TD is always next to me in the vehicle door storage. 

Thankfully I have no war stories to tell,  but I have killed snakes, raccoons, and possums.  I like to say, this is my comfort gun.  Don't take but a second ir more to unload two & reload.  But I honestly think one would be plenty enough to get someone's attention.  It also rests in my bed side night stand, along with my 38 Special.  They have a great relationship.  Sometimes the 32acp rests in between.

top dog

Terry,
Sounds to me that you have a good set up there.

Bond Arms makes superb derringers and  have an excellent customer service.

May I suggest that you contact Bond Arms and purchase a spare hinge pin or two?

Loose one of them and things come to a screetching halt!!

                                                                                                    Top Dog

Terry treefish

Top Dog, I'll take your advice and do it.  Thanks.

heyjoe

I have a bond arms mini and a number of barrels.
It's too bad that our friends cant be here with us today

top dog

I have a small MTM box that I have partitions in where I store the extra bbls (9 to be exact) and also the spare hinge pins and an extra allen wrench or two.

This way I have all my Bond stuff in one convenient location.

Let us know how you do on the range with your new Bond.

                                                                                               Top Dog

se3388

My next door neighbor brought over his new Bond Arms, I believe he said it was the Rowdy Model, he had it loaded with 2.5" 410 ammo and we shot it in 410 and I gave him some of my 'cowboy' level 45 Colt loads which weren't too bad in it and it was reasonably accurate with them. He plans to get a 40 S&W barrel as he has several thousand rounds. Fit and finish were top notch, bad trigger and is heavy.

Steve.......
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theysayimnotme

How easy/hard is it to cock? I have a Davis derringer in .32 ACP and cocking it is slow & hard. The NAA revolvers are certainly much faster & easier to shoot.

top dog

Theysay,
To me,the Bond Derringer is not at all hard to cock. The trigger pull is not straight back but rather somewhat downward.

It takes a few tries to get used to but no real problem.

The grip of the Bond is such that the recoil is in the palm and web of your hand.  Not bad at all to handle.

                                                                                                             Top Dog

Terry treefish

I agree with Top Dog.  Easy cocking.  I much prefer shooting 410's.  I used to seriously metal detect.  My Texas Defender was always loaded in my finds pouch.  One comes across many kinds of people in parks, etc., and sometimes stray dogs.  Fortunately, never had to pull it out.  Had my hand in my pouch several times on ready. 

Gave up metal detecting after basically ruining my hands from digging hundreds of holes.  2000 pennies is only $20, but it's also 2000 holes.

top dog

Terry,
Yep,I agree with what you may "locate" in the woods and parks.

Used to be that I packed in case of two legged predators but now,at least in my area,we have a serious coyote problem.

Over the past two years a number of folks have been attacked while walking their dogs.

This was in suburbia and not the woods.

                                                                                     Top Dog

se3388

#67
Fairly easy to cock it. I made up some 45 Colt shot shells for him using a gas check over the powder with a charge of shot capped off with an inverted gas check and they are deadly medicine on a snake. They hold a better 'pattern' in his Bond than they do out of my Blackhawk. May be less time in the rifling, not sure. We have a lot of snakes around here, I found five snakes (non poisonous) in my yard this summer and killed a Copperhead down the hill by my mailbox and one down the road. My neighbor killed two Rattlesnakes and at least two Copperheads this year in his yard. His Bulldog was bit by both of the Copperheads, one of them got her twice. She loses all common sense when she gets bit and will keep going back till she kills the snake or it kills her.

Steve........
NRA Patron Life Member
North American Hunting Club Life Member

Terry treefish

#68
Imho, except for the weight, there is nothing to not like about the TD.  Even the weight is manageable as a CC, with winter clothing.  Carried it many times in a coat pocket. 

My favorite anytime carry is my Guardian 32acp.  I just love that little pistol.  In the grand scheme of things to consider, it's only around 5 to 6 oz lighter than a TD.   'Bout like a good Buck pocket knife.

se3388

For me (if I had one) I believe the best carry method would be in an IWB holster but each person is different.

Steve.........
NRA Patron Life Member
North American Hunting Club Life Member