22/22 mag

Started by Cheepwings, October-06-19 16:10

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Cheepwings

Anyone else with a 22lr, 22 mag conversion notice superior accuracy with the long rifle? Wonder why?

Canoeal

"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

barrytheprof

Is that from the Kama Sutra?

Canoeal

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No 22 lr has less power so less recoil. the tendency of the longer barrels and the 22 wmr is that it increases muzzle movement. Between the small grips and the hotter load you get some muzzle flip; it is not rocket science.

Practice for a while and you will see improvement. JMHO. I can't compare to the 22 lr as I only have and shoot 22 mag.

If you want, you can make the same comparison between the 38 S&W, and a 357 mag.
"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

Cheepwings

I shoot with the holster grips and don't notice more kick from 22 mag but that would explain it.

WyoShooter

Quote from: barrytheprof on October-06-19 22:10
Is that from the Kama Sutra?
Quote from: Canoeal on October-07-19 11:10
No 22 lr has less power so less recoil. the tendency of the longer barrels and the 22 wmr is that it increases muzzle movement. Between the small grips and the hotter load you get some muzzle flip; it is not rocket science.

I thought I remembered some pictures from the Kama Sutra that proved that out.  I'll have to dig out my copy to refresh my memory--it's been so long.  ;D
Ed

steelbuttplate

Quote from: Cheepwings on October-06-19 16:10
Anyone else with a 22lr, 22 mag conversion notice superior accuracy with the long rifle? Wonder why?
. I started with CCI Stinger .22 LR, 1600 fps.  They went pretty wild.  I backed off to mini mag, 1240 fps and started hitting.  I'm wondering if a hotter round out  of a 1&1/2 inch barrel kicks the bullet left/right  right after it leaves the muzzle.

Canoeal

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"All it takes for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."  Edmund Burke

adp3

Quote from: steelbuttplate on October-07-19 18:10
Quote from: Cheepwings on October-06-19 16:10
Anyone else with a 22lr, 22 mag conversion notice superior accuracy with the long rifle? Wonder why?
. I started with CCI Stinger .22 LR, 1600 fps.  They went pretty wild.  I backed off to mini mag, 1240 fps and started hitting.  I'm wondering if a hotter round out  of a 1&1/2 inch barrel kicks the bullet left/right  right after it leaves the muzzle.

My best guess is that the Stinger's lighter bullet in addition to the higher velocity that you mention also has less bearing surface so less contact between the bore and bullet. The Mini Mag's heavier bullet would have more bearing surface and produce greater stability.

Best Regards,
ADP3
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt,"
-Mark Twain

lefty dude

For practice in my Wasp, with the 22 mag I shoot the Winchester 22 mag Dynapoints. They are 45 grain lead copper washed rather than jacketed. Less velocity & recoil than a CCI 22Mag. Also less expensive, too.
Try them, you'll like them. If you can find them. I buy all I can Find. I also shoot them in my Ruger SS.

Cary Gunn

Gents,

I just had a .22 Magnum cylinder fitted to my Black Widow which came from the factory with only a Long Rifle cylinder.

With CCI Mini Mag 40-grain Long Rifle ammunition, my little gem has consistently placed five rounds in 2 1/2 to 3 inches at 12 yards.  Cheaper Remington Thunderbolt 40-grain round nose fodder has also shot accurately, but some old Federal 36-grain hollow point bulk-packaged stuff has shot poorly.  The old Federals would produce lousy groups of 5 to 6 inches at 12 yards, centered several inches low and to the right of point of impact with CCI and Remington cartridges.
 
Thus, it's clear to me that brand and style of bullet can greatly affect accuracy.  I try to stick with stuff I know my revolver prefers.

My new .22 Magnum cylinder seems to be about as accurate as the Long Rifle cylinder, but places its CCI Maxi Mag 40-grains solids about 3 inches higher at 12 yards.

Happy trails,

-- Cary Gunn --