December Soapbox?

Started by bearcatter, December-06-21 00:12

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bearcatter

Are the involved parties still holding a grudge? Will there ever be another Soapbox?

Remember folks, Sandy is the guy that put NAA on firm footing and defined its long term plan. Do you like your minis? They might not exist without Sandy. NAA is focused on the 2A for its very existance. Doesn't the 1A count for anything? True, sometimes people don't use the best choice of words, or the best civil attitude in expressing their opinion, but that doesn't diminish the right to say it. We're all guilty of regretting something we said, or how we said it, the day after we said it.

There's more than enough negative everywhere you look. Let's end this year on a positive note for everyone here.

Rant over....
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

smokeless joe

Only the shadow knows?

Uncle_Lee

I am over my big hissy fit.
I am a bunch sorry for the very nasty post that I put in the forum.
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

OLD and GRUMPY

Regret what I posted? GUILTY.  At least we can edit or pull our posts on this forum.
Death before Decaf !!!!!

heyjoe

we lost at least one long time poster. i break bread everyday with people i dont agree with 100% of the time. who agrees with anyone 100% of the time? we all go over the top at one time or another. some more than others.
It's too bad that our friends cant be here with us today

5_shooter

I've said things that I regretted later. Sandy apologized. I accept that. People have forgiven me. I should be able to do the same.

bearcatter

I'm hoping Sandy will still do a December soapbox. Just on how NAA fared through this rough year, and what 2022 looks like from this point on.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

grayelky

I, too, hope that Sandy returns to doing the soapbox. While there were things he said I do not agree with, that is okay. I was surprised at the way he said them. I was not surprised when he apologized for the way he phrased his thoughts. Which reinforced the character I gave him credit for having. I would sit down and have lunch with him tomorrow, and enjoy the conversation and his company.
Guns are a lot like parachutes:

"If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again"

bearcatter

I'm with your comment 100%. I admire Sandy for his character and what he's accomplished.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

Darksunclipgrip.com

Quote from: bearcatter on December-06-21 00:12


There's more than enough negative everywhere you look. Let's end this year on a positive note for everyone here.

Rant over....

Interesting concept Bearcatter, truly an interesting concept. Sure does seem to be A LOT of negative everywhere you look. Merry Christmas may YOU have a happy new year as well.

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givenoquarter

Prior to the change in format, I was a member here for quite awhile.

I apologize for nothing. My replies to his posts were not allowed. I made sure to let every forum I am member of to know the contempt that Sandy holds for people that are unvaxxed. 

God forgives, I don't. Sandy should keep his mouth shut and focus on making guns. 

We live in a world where we are constantly under attack for what used to be traditional values. I have zero tolerance for Sandy or any other self righteous poser that profits from an industry that relies on respect for individual freedom.






bearcatter

#11
Geez, aren't you nice. Sandy apologized. Accepting that is another "traditional value" as you say. It's one of the things that keeps society less judgmental. We could use more of that these days.Too many find it too hard to be civil toward others.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

bluecow

Being someone that shoots from the hip when speaking, and with little or no filter between my brain and mouth ( or key board for that fact) Sandy is going to have to work a hole lot harder to get under my skin.  Oh by the way isn't that what speaking from a soap box is all about?  Stating your opinion and *** the torpedoes full steam ahead.  I might not agree with what your saying but I'll fight for your right to say it, as long as you return the favor. 

LepriconX

Looks like I've missed something important.
What is the "Soapbox", and what happened?

P.S. I'm such a sucker for rumors !!!

smokeless joe

Quote from: LepriconX on December-12-21 11:12
Looks like I've missed something important.
What is the "Soapbox", and what happened?

P.S. I'm such a sucker for rumors !!!
Go to the NAA home page. Click menu and scroll down to the soapbox.

bearcatter

Quote from: LepriconX on December-12-21 11:12
Looks like I've missed something important.
What is the "Soapbox", and what happened?

P.S. I'm such a sucker for rumors !!!

It's part of the NAA website, not this one.
https://northamericanarms.com/
Look across the top and click "Sandy's Soapbox". It contains the latest soapbox message, currently October.  There's a drop down menu for older messages.

The Soapbox is an irregular monthly message from Sandy Chisholm, NAA's head honcho. It could be about anything from new NAA guns, to politics hurting the 2A. Whatever's on his mind as being important. Sometimes there is a "guest host", another NAA person.

There was a difference of opinion about The Vaccines (Sept. Soapbox), between Sandy and some members. It got a little heated on the forum, and Sandy apologized for his part of it (Oct. Soapbox). Most involved members did, too. But ever since, the situation has been a little frosty.

I was hoping it would thaw out before the year was over.
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."

* Guardian .32 (2) * Zastava M70 .32 (3) * Bearcat stainless (2) * SP101 .22 * Ruger SR22 (2) * S&W M&P 15-22 Sport

LepriconX

C'mon guys!

Vaccine, no vaccine - who cares!

I am triple vaccinated and still talking to friends who are on a far antivax side :)

heyjoe

Quote from: givenoquarter on December-08-21 21:12
Prior to the change in format, I was a member here for quite awhile.

I apologize for nothing. My replies to his posts were not allowed. I made sure to let every forum I am member of to know the contempt that Sandy holds for people that are unvaxxed. 

God forgives, I don't. Sandy should keep his mouth shut and focus on making guns. 

We live in a world where we are constantly under attack for what used to be traditional values. I have zero tolerance for Sandy or any other self righteous poser that profits from an industry that relies on respect for individual freedom.

you sound more than a little self righteous yourself
It's too bad that our friends cant be here with us today

Uncle_Lee

#18
Quote from: givenoquarter on December-08-21 21:12
Prior to the change in format, I was a member here for quite awhile.

I apologize for nothing. My replies to his posts were not allowed. I made sure to let every forum I am member of to know the contempt that Sandy holds for people that are unvaxxed. 

God forgives, I don't. Sandy should keep his mouth shut and focus on making guns. 

We live in a world where we are constantly under attack for what used to be traditional values. I have zero tolerance for Sandy or any other self righteous poser that profits from an industry that relies on respect for individual freedom.

That sounds a bunch like "woke" thoughts and actions.

Sandy is more (to us) than just the head of North American Arms, he is part of the North American Arms family.
He has always looked at us as part of that family. He discusses about the thoughts of future arms and takes some of the thoughts and runs with them. When a new model is coming out, we get first chance at buying one (or a pair).
Yes, I lost it over the vaccine Soapbox and was/am very sorry I did. But I did and the harm was done. All I could do was to apologize and move on.

To say that you apologize for nothing says that you never do or say anything wrong.

It didn't take you very long to hit my ignore list. 
God, Country, & Flag

LET'S GO BRANDON ( he is gone to the beach )

LepriconX


Armybrat

Quote from: heyjoe on December-12-21 18:12
Quote from: givenoquarter on December-08-21 21:12
Prior to the change in format, I was a member here for quite awhile.

I apologize for nothing. My replies to his posts were not allowed. I made sure to let every forum I am member of to know the contempt that Sandy holds for people that are unvaxxed. 

God forgives, I don't. Sandy should keep his mouth shut and focus on making guns. 

We live in a world where we are constantly under attack for what used to be traditional values. I have zero tolerance for Sandy or any other self righteous poser that profits from an industry that relies on respect for individual freedom.

you sound more than a little self righteous yourself
Well, take note of his/her username.  ;D

OV-1D

  Frankly MY DEAR I DON'T GIVE A DAM .  Heck if I had my own soapbox none of ya's would be allowed to speak (AKA reply) ,HA ,HA ,HA . :):):)
TO ARMS , TO ARMS the liberal socialists are coming . Load and prime your weapons . Don't shoot till you see their UN patches or the Obama bumper stickers , literally . And shoot any politician that says he wants to help you or us .