Quiet ammo out of Black Widow

[Goatpacker]

I was in a situation last week where I was wondering which ammo would be the quietest if I needed to fire a few shots out of the Black Widow. I did a little experiment useing the lr cylinder firing CCI CB shorts and Aguila Super Colibri. While this was nothing formal I first loaded the gun with alternating rounds of each. The CB's seemed to be just a hair louder than the Colibri but to my surprise the Colibri had a touch more penetration I the wood. The penetration was more consistant as well.

I loaded a few more cylinders each with the same ammo and checked penetration again. Colibri defiantly had the slight edge both on noise level and penetration. The CB' while have a purpose in my shorty had penetrations tha varied round for round.

I then loaded some Remington Sub Sonics and they were much louder but had pass through penetration on the 1" Cedar board.

I found a tiny "baby aspirin" bottle the my lr cylinder fits perfectly in with 5 Colibri in the cylinder and 5 extra in the bottom. This will go in my pocket while out in the woods should I need a quiet round to dispatch a critter.

If anyone knows of a quieter round I would be interested in hearing from you and will try it out.

[depletedyourcranium]

If you can find some try some of the CCI 'Quiet' .22LR ammo.  It works fantastic out of rifle, little more than a loud clap.  I don't know how well it would be out of such a short revolver but its worth a shot.

[OV-1D]

I was in a situation last week where I was wondering which ammo would be the quietest if I needed to fire a few shots out of the Black Widow. I did a little experiment useing the lr cylinder firing CCI CB shorts and Aguila Super Colibri. While this was nothing formal I first loaded the gun with alternating rounds of each. The CB's seemed to be just a hair louder than the Colibri but to my surprise the Colibri had a touch more penetration I the wood. The penetration was more consistant as well.

I loaded a few more cylinders each with the same ammo and checked penetration again. Colibri defiantly had the slight edge both on noise level and penetration. The CB' while have a purpose in my shorty had penetrations tha varied round for round.

I then loaded some Remington Sub Sonics and they were much louder but had pass through penetration on the 1" Cedar board.





I found a tiny "baby aspirin" bottle the my lr cylinder fits perfectly in with 5 Colibri in the cylinder and 5 extra in the bottom. This will go in my pocket while out in the woods should I need a quiet round to dispatch a critter.

If anyone knows of a quieter round I would be interested in hearing from you and will try it out.

  You can always use a empty 2 liter plastic bottle filled with fiberglass fluff , 8 and 12 ounce bottles are o.k. too but not as quite .  

[Goatpacker]

At this point I don't need that quiet OV. Kinda hard to keep in the pocket too, maybe I'll keep one in the truck though just in case.

[bbgun]

Just  use colebri regular -- not the super colibri.

[Goatpacker]

I'll try those. I was confused and thought the super Colibri was a lighter round. After looking at them I see the regular should be even quieter. Thanks

[Kevin55]

The best thing to do is get a longer barreled rifle that keeps the action closed.  Bolt, lever, or pump.
Then get some quiet ammo.  See video below.

A soda silencer can get you into big trouble. There is a company that sells a thread on adapter that uses soda bottles and can be registered.  Another company makes one that uses auto filters.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/history_rimfire_ammo.htm
http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=3&loadNo=960
http://www.cci-ammunition.com/whatsnew/newproducts.aspx

CCI out of lever rifle.  Regular, Quiet, short
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-HFmYKzhx8&feature

[G50AE]

A soda silencer can get you into big trouble. There is a company that sells a thread on adapter that uses soda bottles and can be registered.  Another company makes one that uses auto filters.

+1 on that, NFA rules are not areas where you want to be operating in the gray area.

[TwoGunJayne]

If the adapter is fully registered and compliant, then there is no issue.

Recall the time the BATFE registered a shoestring as a machinegun. Sometimes strange-sounding judgements are passed.

Anyway, I agree with Kevin55 on the long barrel and colibris. They just don't do much from a pistol and will be surprisingly loud from short barreled revolvers. However, since you're toting a long gun now, why not a moderated pellet rifle? There's even air "shotguns" that launch #12 shot like those rimfire shotshells.

[Goatpacker]

I'm not interested in any type of silencer at this point. I'm just looking for the quietest round for my BW. Want to carry a few in the pocket for times that I do not want to disturb others.

The situation I was in the other day was that I was on a huge ranch, 82,000 acres, hunting Javalinas with a bow. The place was covered wih rattlers, killed two over 5 1/2 feet. Would have been easier to just pull out the Widow and pop them in the head and safer than useing an arrow as I did. There were others in the area stalking javies as well so I did not want a loud "crack" that may have ruined a stalk for them.

The Super Colibri round would have done what I needed done, and I believe it would have been quiet enough. Penetration was plenty sufficient in my testing as they penetrated a cedar board about 3/4" from 20 feet. That would be more than enough for a snakes head at 5 feet.

If I was to eventually get a surpressor it would be for a larger rifle to hunt wild hogs at night.

[Kevin55]

The cylinder gap and short barrel will make a revolver loud.
As was said, your ammo choices will make the biggest differences.
Did you listen to the video?  Major differences in noise.  Plus, I tend to trust CCI ammo.

[Goatpacker]

Oh yes, I watched the video the other day. Big difference. I know cylinder gap and short barrels are making the rounds louder. I'm just looking for quiet as possible. I'm going to try the CCI Quiet and regular Colibri.

I hope the CCI will do what I need because their products have my trust as well.

[G50AE]

If the adapter is fully registered and compliant, then there is no issue.

That is a good point.  However I must again emphasize that NFA rules are and area where you do not want to be operating in a gray area.

Recall the time the BATFE registered a shoestring as a machinegun. Sometimes strange-sounding judgements are passed.

Or the Akins Accelerator.