Anybody rapid fire their NAA SA revolver by holding the trigger down

[Houdini]

Anybody rapid fire their NAA SA revolver by holding the trigger down with their right index finger with a right hand grip, and continuously cocking their revolver with their left thumb.  The review by "The Lucky Gunner" who could not fire a NAA mini fast enough made think of this.  I have had my mini for 31 years and never tried it until tonight without the cylinder in it and it appeared to work.  I then place an empty cylinder in it to see if it would rotate under these conditions and it did, although I did not allow the hammer to completely smack down and dry fire since I have heard to not to do this in rim fire revolvers. 

Has anybody tried to rapid fire their mini in this manner with live ammo? 

Is it safe to do so?

[grayelky]

While I have not tried this, I have demonstrated how quickly you can "fire" a mini by using the off hand to cock it and then pull the trigger. And, no, I have not tried this with live ammo - yet. I will the next time I am out shooting though.

[Uncle_Lee]

My hands are far too big to "fan" a mini.
I have never even considered it.

[RICKS PLACE]

On any single action I always grip with my right, cock with my left, fire with the right trigger finger.  Does not change my grip on the weapon and, to me, is the most steady method.  I found when I simply held the trigger for the hammer to fall, there was a brief moment of movement with no chance to recover my sight picture.  For me, if I couldn't use that method and keep steady with slow fire, attempted rapid fire, regardless of any gained speed, would be a waste of ammo and accuracy.   

[Warthog]

Never tried to fan a mini.  When younger I tried to fan my Ruger SA revolver,  wasn't good at it so I stopped.

[bearcatter]

Fanning a revolver is considered a bad way to treat a gun; it can damage action parts. You're also less able to catch a squib in the barrel. Anybody want a mini with a bulged barrel (or worse) ?

[Canoeal]

Fanning a mini... I guess there are all sorts of fringe fools...

[OV-1D]

 Question is why would you want to ?

[Houdini]

For those who ask why would anyone want to rapid fire their mini?

Suppose you were a 125 pound female who was suddenly attacked, you will only have seconds to fight back before you are overcome by a male attacker.  If you were teaching this female how to fight back using her NAA mini revolver, a weapon small and light enough she actually carries it, why not research and explore every method available to get the most out of her weapon.  Experts say a man can cover 21 feet in less than two seconds.  We are not talking about fanning a mini like "Josey Whales" in western movies.  I was asking about having her hold the mini revolver with her right hand, squeezing the trigger with her right index finger and holding it.  While using her left hand to support her right handed grip, and continuously cocking the mini with her left thumb.

Dry firing without the cylinder in the revolver it appears I could get off all five rounds in under two seconds using this method.  Which is what the "Lucky Gunner" could not do using the standard cock with you right thumb, squeeze trigger with your right index finger.

I put this question out their to learn from others on this forum. 

I must admit that for 30 years I shot my mini by cocking with my right thumb and pulling the trigger with my right index finger.  But after reading an article by a retired detective using the cock with your left thumb, pull trigger with your right index finger, that is now my favorite shooting method.  So I could not help but think, what if I simply held the trigger down the whole time? 

I do not think we will practice much if any of the holding down the trigger method.  Since after only a few practice sessions I can shoot all 5 rounds in two seconds with my new method of simply cocking with the left thumb and pulling the trigger with my right index finger.

[Uncle_Lee]

For the thrill of fanning.
Different strokes for different folks.
Just because I don't do it doesn't mean no one should do it.

[RogueTS1]

That would be termed slip thumbing and no I have never tried it. Fanning and slip thumbing are reportedly hard on a revolver.

[OV-1D]

For the thrill of fanning.
Different strokes for different folks.
Just because I don't do it doesn't mean no one should do it.

   I suppose Unc . Like Rogue just pointed out its tough on the gun and mistreating guns always ends in mishaps eventually . Your right though its not any of my business .

[Uncle_Lee]

I fanned a couple of replica Colt black powder revolvers a bunch.
Ya, I had to replace hammer springs, hands, and cylinder bolts but they were cheap and easy to replace.
I had a lot of fun playing cowboy and making a smoke.
Smokeless isn't as much fun.

[Honky Tonk Man]

A popular cap gun when I grew up was called a "Fanner 50".  You could hold the trigger back and fan the wide flat hammer spur.  There were a few Hollywood cowboys that made that trick famous, but can't remember who anymore?

[Honky Tonk Man]

I found a picture of it.

[autofull]

no, never done that. but then i repair firearms and im kinda concerned about tiny parts gettin mangled.

[riadat]

Did it, broke hammer spring.

[Gun1]

While I have not tried this, I have demonstrated how quickly you can "fire" a mini by using the off hand to cock it and then pull the trigger. And, no, I have not tried this with live ammo - yet. I will the next time I am out shooting though.

Just out of curiosity, how fast can you shoot all 5 rounds? And is this 2 handed or 1 handed?

[SteveZ-FL]

For those who ask why would anyone want to rapid fire their mini?

Suppose you were a 125 pound female who was suddenly attacked, you will only have seconds to fight back before you are overcome by a male attacker.  If you were teaching this female how to fight back using her NAA mini revolver, a weapon small and light enough she actually carries it, why not research and explore every method available to get the most out of her weapon...........

I agree with getting the most out of a weapon.  That being said, hard experience has taught me that gettingthe most out of weapon involves recognizing the design limitations of the weapon combined with the practiced skill of the firer.  Since self-defense situations can be high stress events, the firer needs to be able to react based on learned and practiced skill.  From what I've seen, many folk rarely practice to maintain a skill level once supposedly becoming "qualified" in it. 

If the trainee's expected threat environment requires to be able to quickly fire several shots at an attacker, then a single-action .22 revolver is the wrong weapon for that environment.  Just because the person will carry a mini doesn't mean the mini will fit all situations all of the time.  While there are firers who can get off two-to-three fast quality shots  in an SD situation with a mini, that skill took considerable time and practice to develop and the firer was dedicated to acquire that skill and maintain it. 

The mini is light and easily concealable, but that doesn't make it the best concealed carry weapon for everyone, especially those folk who won't train and practice, practice practice with it.  It's continued practicing with the mini combined with realistic threat assessment which makes it a decent carry weapon for folk who feel comfortable with it.  Instructors need to recognize the design limitations of the trainee/customer's weapon choice and make darned sure the trainee/customer understands what those limitations mean in the real world. 

[Boisesteve]

I was taught that in difficult situations we respond with (or sink to) our level of training.  I don't train to shoot five shots as fast as I can. I bring the revolver rapidly up to get a flash sight picture down the top strap with the front sight covering where I want the projectile to arrive. I cock the hammer and fire each shot quickly but deliberately at the practice target, which usually is a dinner-size paper plate at 5 to 7 yards (so if ever I'm attacked by a paper plate, I'm all set).  Lately I've gotten a few of those ground rolling reshootable targets to practice with (so if any of those varmints ever attack I'll be ready also).
I've got no experience with holding the trigger down while repeatedly cocking and firing.  Sounds like it would be hard on the tiny internal parts.  Just my two cents worth.
Steve in Boise

[RogueTS1]

Paper plate accuracy should do the job but these things are so much more capable than that.

[Gun1]

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